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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






Herr Tubthumper

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That does mean war.....

Trump will sit it...
Possibly he will invade Greenland, while we are busy.

He will then join the war when all sides are on their knees and rape us all.
I personally cannot see the US going to war with Europe based on countries increasing their help and support to Ukraine. It's a flimsy premise.
 




Goldstone1976

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Would Congress back a war against Europe? If not, surely the US military would refuse to deploy. You can't do everything by executive order.
The US military swear allegiance to the Constitution, not the President nor Congress. The most senior folk in every branch of the military I've ever met (and over my career I've met a lot) are intelligent and take their constitutional roles very seriously. This would be a factor in whether US forces deploy or not. Sure, under normal circumstances the military will follow their political masters - but we're not in 'normal circumstances'...
 


Insel affe

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I personally cannot see the US going to war with Europe based on countries increasing their help and support to Ukraine. It's a flimsy premise.
No, I did not mean Trump would go to war with us, he would watch Russia and Europe battle it out, and then when both sides are down on their knees, he will come in and pick through the carcasses and what is left of Europe and rape our countries of any assets.
 




peterward

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Steve Bannon flashing a Nazi salute at the CPAC conference, similar to what Musk did a few weeks ago.

They are Neo fascists, The all new rebranded 21st century version of Nazis, who have mainly learned how to hide the outward appearances of fascism, but still to slowly propogate its message.

Little by little they are taking people down a well trodden path of evil, aligning with global fascist parties and moving towards a new world fascist order.

 








Herr Tubthumper

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No, I did not mean Trump would go to war with us, he would watch Russia and Europe battle it out, and then when both sides are down on their knees, he will come in and pick through the carcasses and what is left of Europe and rape our countries of any assets.
Apologies. I misunderstood you.
 


Greg Bobkin

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White House asking Ukraine to hand over access their minerals in exchange for aid. This really is the worst kind of blackmail. This is utterly disgusting. Anyone who still supports this man should be ashamed of themselves.
Terrible thing to say, maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if Trump had something to do with that attack.
 


Withdean South Stand

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Sadly, I suspect we're living through a similar decade to the 1930s where war is inevitable. Everyone knows who the players are and their self-interests. If Putin is allowed to keep the territory gained through war, he will strengthen his position there and go again. Maybe at the remaining Ukraine, but maybe at Poland. Or Norway. And that means war with Europe. I agree with the suggestions that Trump would stay out of it until it was advantagous to himself to step in.

Alliances around the world have crumbled and the worst people have seized power.
 








A1X

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I see they’re trying to walk back the “dictator” outburst
It's pretty clear the orange man-baby just had a tantrum and spat the dummy out because Zelenskyy actually had the balls to call him out, and now the administration is trying to clean up the toys and put them back in the pram because the entire international community essentially went "WTF??"
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Commander

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Sadly, I suspect we're living through a similar decade to the 1930s where war is inevitable. Everyone knows who the players are and their self-interests. If Putin is allowed to keep the territory gained through war, he will strengthen his position there and go again. Maybe at the remaining Ukraine, but maybe at Poland. Or Norway. And that means war with Europe. I agree with the suggestions that Trump would stay out of it until it was advantagous to himself to step in.

Alliances around the world have crumbled and the worst people have seized power.
I just can’t see how Putin, after 3 years in a war he expected to last 3 days and is now desperate to get out of due to massive losses and an economy falling to bits, where he hasn’t achieved 10% of his objectives, would decide to try again against a far better armed country like Poland, or indeed even a whole continent. It would make no sense whatsoever.
 


SouthSaxon

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Steve Bannon flashing a Nazi salute at the CPAC conference, similar to what Musk did a few weeks ago.

They are Neo fascists, The all new rebranded 21st century version of Nazis, who have mainly learned how to hide the outward appearances of fascism, but still to slowly propogate its message.

Little by little they are taking people down a well trodden path of evil, aligning with global fascist parties and moving towards a new world fascist order.

Too toxic even for the French far right. Guardian reporting that Jordan Bardella has cancelled his speech at CPAC as a direct result.
 




Binney on acid

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On a lighter note, these videos gave me an unusual amount of joy today :love:

(apologies I don't know how to embed videos :confused:)


https://news.sky.com/video/trudeau-taunts-trump-as-canada-beats-us-in-hockey-final-13313875

Fantastic ! I really enjoyed that. In future, with regard to Mr Genocide's war in Ukraine, I'm only prepared to watch videos of Russian apartment blocks being reduced to rubble, and Russian armoured divisions, munition dumps or warships ablaze. I still find it difficult to celebrate when I see footage of dead Russian soldiers, because I know that they are some mother's sons. However, Mr Genocide and now the orange one appear to be working on my inability to eulogise over the slaughter of Russian innocents. At their present rate of progress, I'll soon contrive no pleasure from any war footage, apart from videos of Moscow reduced to a sheet of glass.
 


Me Atome

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I just can’t see how Putin, after 3 years in a war he expected to last 3 days and is now desperate to get out of due to massive losses and an economy falling to bits, where he hasn’t achieved 10% of his objectives, would decide to try again against a far better armed country like Poland, or indeed even a whole continent. It would make no sense whatsoever.
That's a good point, which I hadn't really considered. I suppose though if the world stands back over Ukraine, he might take a couple of years to rebuild and then make another move.
 


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