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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


BBassic

I changed this.
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Elon Musk has agreed to pay legal fees racked up by jailed British far-right agitator Tommy Robinson, Robinson’s representatives have claimed.


Now, is Musk doing this as a private citizen or as a representative of the United States Government? Is there even a difference at this point?
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,613
Brighton
Elon Musk has agreed to pay legal fees racked up by jailed British far-right agitator Tommy Robinson, Robinson’s representatives have claimed.


Now, is Musk doing this as a private citizen or as a representative of the United States Government? Is there even a difference at this point?
Weird thing to do if you didn't want people to think you liked Nazis...
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
57,478
Faversham
I wonder if all the people saying "we must be careful about labelling Musk as a Nazi" remain so circumspect when anything remotely progressive is labelled as communism by the right. I feel like I already know the answer to that though.

Not going to make any apologies for this: Anyone questioning whether the billionaire who supports the German Neo-Nazi party, says Jews are conspiring against white people, and throws Hitler salutes on stage is really a Nazi knows exactly what they're doing. And I know what they're doing too, but Jean-Paul Sartre put it better than I could.

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Sounds like the modus operandi of former NSC tosser, das reich. Somehow tolerated for years on NSC, just as Musk is tolerated in the wider world.

The apologist who is now crying about being called a Nazi sympathiser on NSC can do what that Danis MEP suggests Trump can do.
 
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mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
22,091
England
Weird thing to do if you didn't want people to think you liked Nazis...

Stop

These are all just coincidences that he simply couldn't avoid.

It's like the new rival sport he has recently set up to compete against F1. It's amazing but quite niche. He has decided that the drivers should be an ex Man United and Wales winger known for his hairy chest, a Canadian actor who recently starred in Barbie and the Deadpool actor who owns Wrexham.







How was he to know that A Ryan Race was going to cause controversy?
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,775
Sounds like the modus operandi of former NSC tosser, das reich. Somehow tolerated for years on NSC, just as Musk is tolerated in the wider world.

The apologist who is now crying about being called a Nazi sympathiser on NSC can do what that Greenland MP suggests Trump can do.
Das Reich was Trump all along???
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,711

And that’s how most Western leaders probably feel; “fcuk ’im”

At least Bolsonaro (charged with a coup against one of the World’s largest democracies) AKA ‘Trump of the Tropics’ will be pleased - if only he’d been allowed to leave Brazil and accept Trump’s invitation to the Inauguration - heh it is what it is with indicted presidents. I’m sure Netanyahu ( possible perpetrator of war crimes and corruption charges facing him) and Putin ( perpetrator of war crimes) will be welcomed by the sycophantic Trump to the White House for “Peace” talks soon - so he’ll have some of his foreign bros to prop him up on the World stage.

- interesting President XI ( guilty of decades of human rights violations) wasn’t keen to be the supporting cast though - maybe the threat of a trade war looms too large?
 


Sea Cider

Well-known member
Dec 27, 2012
590
He, Trump, Trump Jnr and all the rest of them will never apologise, take responsibility or admit to making a mistake about anything.

They literally don't give a shite what people think or about what they do or the implications of it all. They could not care less about the optics or the ensuing chat/arguments about it.

How/why people lap it all up is beyond me, but there we go...
Driven by Trump, this is the new way of the political right. Never apologise. Never admit a mistake. Tell lies as often and in as many directions as possible in order to make it normalised. Take opposite sides on key issues, even within the same sentence, in order to create soundbites that the billions of social-media infected genders of the human race will pick and choose to hear to support their views.

Depressing times
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,824
Gods country fortnightly
I see the biggest winner of all this is going to be corporate America, but the consumer is going to get seriously f**ked over
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,711


Squirming in their seats - white privilege in all its glory

Should probably add this reasonable take on Elon‘s fashy ‘salute’ too - I’ll go with far right appeasing ‘idiot’ for now
 
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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,613
Brighton
Driven by Trump, this is the new way of the political right. Never apologise. Never admit a mistake. Tell lies as often and in as many directions as possible in order to make it normalised. Take opposite sides on key issues, even within the same sentence, in order to create soundbites that the billions of social-media infected genders of the human race will pick and choose to hear to support their views.

Depressing times
Also, always leave yourself enough wiggle room for some "plausible deniability" - Musk's Salute, Trump's Proud Boys dog whistle, etc etc.

Never QUITE say it, but very clearly infer it, for the intended audience.

"oh no, I couldn't possibly have meant THAT, could I......?"
 


jcdenton08

Joel Veltman Fan Club
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Oct 17, 2008
15,639
Also, always leave yourself enough wiggle room for some "plausible deniability" - Musk's Salute, Trump's Proud Boys doh whistle, etc etc.

Never QUITE say it, but very clearly infer it, for the intended audience.
This.
 












Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,049
Cumbria

Deporting American citizens because they say that the President should be merciful towards others, or disagree with the President.

Obviously it won't happen - but it's quite something that a politican is comfortable in even encouraging this sort of dictatorship-type actions, with no fear of repercussions towards him. If it happened in another country, the US would be critical of them.

Nuts.
 


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