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Reinelt12

Sick Note
Nov 8, 2006
1,314
Lichfield, United Kingdom
I know that he does and I'm not knocking that . Is Barnes a better player than dobbie yes or no? And if gus thinks dobbie has the work rate of Barnes then I'm sure dobbie will play more I mite be wrong but I don't care as long as we are winning.

Why are you so sure Dobbie would replace Barnes? He can play anywhere along the forward line or attacking midfield...
 


















Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
Barnes had a quiet game last night because he was played out of position end of !!

IN GUS WE TRUST !!!
IT PAID OFF, WE HUMPED THEM !!!
 




Dec 29, 2011
8,205
I know that he does and I'm not knocking that . Is Barnes a better player than dobbie yes or no? And if gus thinks dobbie has the work rate of Barnes then I'm sure dobbie will play more I mite be wrong but I don't care as long as we are winning.

Hey! You can't knock NSC's current golden boy on my watch! One hundred lines for you Sir (until the general opinion turns against him and it starts being cool to not like him again).
 


SeagullSongs

And it's all gone quiet..
Oct 10, 2011
6,937
Southampton
I think Dobbie is here to replace Vicente, not Barnes.
I doubt we'll see Vicente on the pitch in the next month, possibly even longer.

(I'm not a Vicente hater, I have his name on the back of my shirt :facepalm:)
 


Jim Van Winkle

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2010
3,125
Hawaii
Reading the OP's comments leaves me with the feeling I've just had a lobotomy. Don't really know what to write without leaving lots of profanity. Am feeling in a nice mood so I'll just leave him with a :ffsparr: :stupid: :facepalm:
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,059
Just a feeling could be wrong.the squad is just ridiculously strong at the mo which is great.

Great insight. I think the Football League Show will be on the phone, asking you to join the panel...

I agree actually do feel Barnes would be better thro the middle.

Better? In what sense, or than whom?

I'm with the 'marathon not a sprint' gang. There are numerous reasons for them all having a role to play beyond being direct replacements for each other: Injuries; suspensions; competition for places; and international breaks. Also what are you basing your opinion of Dobbie on? He 5 minute cameo on Friday night? Against one the most promising youngsters we've had in years, who happens to know where the goal is?

You, sir, are a clown, and this thread is gash (but potential gold).
 


Lethargic

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
Sometimes he will replace Barnes sometimes CMS and sometimes play with both. I think everyone forward of Bridcutt is a squad player and will be interchangeable. We now have a solid defence that picks its self and flexible attacking option that can adapt to each game and situation -perfect and keeping them all happy is where Gus earns his cash.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,324
Living In a Box
I think Dobbie is here to replace Vicente, not Barnes.
I doubt we'll see Vicente on the pitch in the next month, possibly even longer.

(I'm not a Vicente hater, I have his name on the back of my shirt :facepalm:)

Personally I don't think we will see him ever again
 




dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
I know that he does and I'm not knocking that . Is Barnes a better player than dobbie yes or no? And if gus thinks dobbie has the work rate of Barnes then I'm sure dobbie will play more I mite be wrong but I don't care as long as we are winning.

Bore off. Gus has said Dobbie is here to play the Vicente role, not the Barnes role.

Barnes has a starting place every match, and he has earned it.
 


Seasider78

Well-known member
Nov 14, 2004
6,011
Sometimes he will replace Barnes sometimes CMS and sometimes play with both. I think everyone forward of Bridcutt is a squad player and will be interchangeable. We now have a solid defence that picks its self and flexible attacking option that can adapt to each game and situation -perfect and keeping them all happy is where Gus earns his cash.

Agree with this. The reality is we now have really tough competition for places and all players are going to have to be at the top of their game to keep the shirt. One poor game and you could find your spot in the starting line up at threat. This is a healthy position to be in of course
 








Seagulls1984

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
1,330
Steyning
It's how they compare in the team that counts so it's too early to tell at the moment.

Yeah I agree, we will see in the coming weeks. I think Barnes plays more for his work rate and his ability to defend than his ability going forward.
 


Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
Is Barnes a better player than dobbie yes or no? And if gus thinks dobbie has the work rate of Barnes then I'm sure dobbie will play more I mite be wrong but I don't care as long as we are winning.

It's not that simple. As we see with England for the past 15 years or so, that picking the 11 "best players" isn't as effective as picking the "best team". It's not about whether one individual is perceived to be a better player than another, it's about what each player brings to the team. If he is picked, Dobbie won't be picked just because he is better than barnes, he will be picked because he brings more to the team than barnes does, and that isn't just about football skills, but other things - ability to understand and execute instruction, discipline to stick to instructions, work rate, effort, character, how he fits with the rest of the team and their abilities and the importance of those abilities.

Is Dobbie going to replace Barnes? He probably will in some games, and not in others. I see the sort of selection pattern Gus had with Murray/Barnes/Wood, a rotation style depending on tactics for a game/opponent/form/training. Barnes is still young and is improving with every season as he learns more and gains experience. Dobbie is almost 30, is probably around his peak so his learning and improvement is probably at a plateau.


One of Barnes' qualities is that he scores off the bench almost as frequently as he scores from starts (last season he scored in 22% of games off the bench, 25% of games he starts; season before 27%v34%; season before 50%v50%) which isn't always the case, (I think in his last two years with us, Murray came off the bench 12 times and didn't score once; Nicky Forster had scored in 20% of games off the bench, 43% when starting in his last season with us). CMS had a poor return last season, skewing his record, for the record, though his is 16% off the bench v 18% from starts. So, even if he is dropped to the bench, I can see him contributing to the team.
 


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