Do we do worse with Vicente on the pitch?

[seagullmouse]

As much as playing Vicente is great fun and we like to talk about how good he is... it seems that whenever he plays we do worse...

Does anyone know what our avg points per game is with him starting and not starting? I can't be bothered to work it out but have a gut feel it won't be in his favour?

I wonder if he makes us play a nice open game that is fun to watch but leaves us too open to concede.

 

[Doc Lynam]

Would we do worse with you on the pitch?

 

[seagullmouse]

Would we do worse with you on the pitch?

Seems like a less relevant question than mine

 

[Fef]

Seems like a less relevant question than mine

But not by much!

 

[HastingsSeagull]

My GUESS would be yes when he plays 90 mins, no when he plays first 60 or last 30 only

 

[rdigs24]

As much as playing Vicente is great fun and we like to talk about how good he is... it seems that whenever he plays we do worse...

Does anyone know what our avg points per game is with him starting and not starting? I can't be bothered to work it out but have a gut feel it won't be in his favour?

I wonder if he makes us play a nice open game that is fun to watch but leaves us too open to concede.

Seems to me that Vicente is the type of player that is extremely good home but is of no use away as he tends to go missing.

 

[brightonmark1234]

he goes down far too easy when someone goes in with a tackle on him and he think he will get a free kick all the time he might get free kick in spain but he wont get that much in the championship

 

[ewe2]

Best coming off the bench IMO

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Given there are 10 other players in the team it's not as simple as when he starts verses when he doesn't.

 

[Ulloa's Soul Patch]

I think he plays off the atmosphere created at the AMEX spurring him on. But away from Home he losses his flair I think...

 

[seagulls4ever]

To be fair, the stats do show that we perform much better with him not in the side than with him in the side.

 

[brightonmark1234]

I think he plays off the atmosphere created at the AMEX spurring him on. But away from Home he losses his flair I think...

what atmosphere at the amex its been crap this season

 

[00snook]

To be fair, the stats do show that we perform much better with him not in the side than with him in the side.

So what are the stats?

 

[Ulloa's Soul Patch]

what atmosphere at the amex its been crap this season

We're noiser than most other clubs in the Championship.
Some of the other home support is god-awful, for example Ipswich only for cheered during the half time entertainment.

 

[seagulls4ever]

So what are the stats?

Last season it was 3/4 wins in 17 games or something, but I can't be sure exactly. Obviously those stats will have changed now. I'm not going to look it up - too much effort!

 

[brightonmark1234]

We're noiser than most other clubs in the Championship.
Some of the other home support is god-awful, for example Ipswich only for cheered during the half time entertainment.

okay mate i just feel it hasnt been the same as last season

 

[Bladders]

He doesn't seem to get more than a 5 in the player ratings threads when away from home.

 

[T soprano]

Agree with a few other posters on this thread Vicente thrives at the Amex but struggles at away games I think the bigger pitch at home + crowd behind him and teams setting up more defensive at the Amex ( giving him more time & space on ball )as opposed to teams attacking us away resulting in him doing more defensive duties
Vicente is defiantly a Homer

 

[GingerBeerMan]

To be fair, the stats do show that we perform much better with him not in the side than with him in the side.

but I can't be sure exactly. I'm not going to look it up - too much effort!

So your first post was just a complete lie?

 

[Flavor Flav]

Away from home our players tend to get ran through a lot which obviously doesn't help us. Vincente in particular likes a little more time on the ball and he just doesn't get that. Personally, I'd just use him as a second half sub.