Disgusting Tory sub-human scum

[Herr Tubthumper]

If you are looking for a simplistic solution to the housing crisis, based upon the politics of the distant past, the proposal I'd put forward would be to reintroduce the housing policies followed by Harold Macmillan in the 1950s. A massive expansion of house building and a real commitment to publicly owned and managed social housing.

This. As well as adding rent-controls.

 

[Nibble]

The government, and this is other governments not just Tory's, for the last 12 years hold an annual bunfight usually aboard an oligarchs yacht or at a hotel where they party and run up huge bills while auctioning off our council housing to the highest bidder. Invite only obviously. That's not some outlandish Bilderberg theory, it was widely reported in mainstream news a couple of months ago when they held their last auction. Pretty ****ing disgusting.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

There is no left in popular politics any more. Blair saw to that.

Do the Greens count as left wing or are they still considered a fringe party ?

 

[Danny-Boy]

If you look at history the rich have always borne down on the poor until they revolt.
Eventually ordinary people decide that they have had enough and throw out the ruling classes. Fortunately we have evolved in this country to having the chance to throw them out by vote rather than violence. The problem is they never go away and we have to put up with them again, like now.

I'm revolting...

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I'm revolting...

What has being a Palace fan got to do with this thread

 

[severnside gull]

Do the Greens count as left wing or are they still considered a fringe party ?

Possibly not "popular".

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Perhaps you might like to also ask Benyon why he won't sell the land that the infamous railway crossing at Ufton Nervet sits on. Scene of numerous fatalities. Network Rail are desperate to build a bridge. Benyon is unmoved.
I'd tie him to the line and leave him there.

 

[Machiavelli]

Er .... the Lib Dems who are very much left of centre.

No they're not. What needs to be grasped is that the centre -- and politics too, for that matter -- is not something that is immobile, but something that shifts. It has shifted far to the right under neoliberalism, whereas it shifted to the left in the postwar consensus. The Tories of MacMillan that LB refers to were actually left of centre.
The Lib Dems have played their own part in maintaining the 'centre' to the right, which their eagerness to get into a Coalition with the Tories is a clear illustration of.

 

[yxee]

If you are looking for a simplistic solution to the housing crisis, based upon the politics of the distant past, the proposal I'd put forward would be to reintroduce the housing policies followed by Harold Macmillan in the 1950s. A massive expansion of house building and a real commitment to publicly owned and managed social housing.

That's just crazy enough to work. Except half the electorate - those that currently own houses - would not be too keen on anything that might burst their bubble. That's why everyone's talking about demand and nobody's talking about supply.

 

[ozzygull]

That's just crazy enough to work. Except half the electorate - those that currently own houses - would not be too keen on anything that might burst their bubble. That's why everyone's talking about demand and nobody's talking about supply.

I don't beleive that everyone who buys a house thinks of it as an investment, I don't. I think of it as my home. I grew up in social housing and my mum still lives there. When I started work I moved in to private rented accommodation. I wanted to buy my own house for the security that it gives.

There is a massive shortage of social housing I would definitely not be against anything that was done to try and rectify this.

 

[Commander]

Because I see a single person as a free-market scumbag does not mean I infer all supporters of the free-market as scumbags...this does not make any logical sense. If I said John was a BHAFC football hooligan it would not mean that I inferred all supporters of BHAFC are hooligans would it? This is what you are implying.

What if you said someone was a black scumbag? By your example one would assume that is OK, because you wouldn't be inferring that all black people were scumbags.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What if you said someone was a black scumbag? By your example one would assume that is OK, because you wouldn't be inferring that all black people were scumbags.

I think you know that there is a huge difference between differentiation based on economic belief and differentiation based on race.

 

[GT49er]

There'd be a lot less problems of rocketing house prices and greedy landlords ripping off the country (and let's face it, people like Richard Benyon are the true benefit scroungers: exactly who finally receives the Housing Benefits that are handed out? Not the tenants - they just pass it on to the landlords) if we still had the superb stock of publicly owned housing we had at the start of the 1980s.

But 'there's no such thing as society' Thatcher royally f*****d that up on her way to personal fame and fortune.