Disgusting Tory sub-human scum

[Ernest]

If housing benefit and tax credits were stopped tomorrow then rents, prices etc would have to fall to a level that wages could cope with or wages would have to rise to be able to afford the prices charged, why should the government through in work benefits such as child allowance, tax credits and housing benefits subsidise people like Benyon and businesses like Tescos ?

 

[brightn'ove]

I know close to two hundred people who work in the city and none of them live there either as a main or temporary residence.

It must be a remarkable coincidence that I only know one person who works in the city, and he lives in N1

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So what are you suggesting he does? It's not all as black and white as being suggested.

http://www.thebenyonestate.com/newera.jsp


http://www.thebenyonestate.com/newera.jsp

Ah, sorry. It's an act of altruism. Better ask the mods to change to title to "Generous Tory act of selflessness"

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I know close to two hundred people who work in the city and none of them live there either as a main or temporary residence.

Where do they live? Monaco?

 

[kevo]

Interesting that the title of the thread was 'Disgusting TORY sub-human scum' rather than 'Disgusting sub-human scum'. Some people clearly have a political agenda.
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I didn't write the article. Let's put it this way, if you read it and didn't know which party he represented, I think you could take an educated guess.

 

[severnside gull]

Now I have a healthy disregard for all politicians on the basis that every one of them is capable of, if not actively practicing, wide-scale duplicity. But more than anything I love a good "Tory scum" story and this is a classic.
I'd blame Thatcher but in truth the Tories' history of economic elitism and a wholly self-serving lack of care or concern for everyone not in their club goes back centuries.
The wonder is that the very people that these pond life feed off keep on voting them in to government but I guess as long as they can catch the occasional crumb.....

 

[tinycowboy]

Where do they live? Monaco?

I can answer this as I work in the City: the shocking answer is....people live in different places, all over the place. One thing that does shock me is that a colleague bought a house in Wimbledon for £600k in 2011 and, according to Zoopla, it's now worth £1.1m. What's going on? How will this impact our society in the coming years as people who are lucky to be in the right place at the right time make absolute (unrealised) fortunes from nothing whilst others see what little they have being eroded steadily? It's worrying.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I didn't write the article. Let's put it this way, if you read it and didn't know which party he represented, I think you could take an educated guess.

No you didn't write the article - I know that - but you did write the thread title. So a left wing Labour supporting paper writes an anti-Tory article - oh the surprise. The real story ( and that's if it is real - I don't believe a thing any of the printed press publish to be honest ) is that a PERSON is treating another person so badly, nowt to do with that first person's politics unless of course you're a paper with a mission to deflect the current issue Ed has. There are plenty of examples in the Tory lead press about what Labour members have done as well. To be frank it's pathetic - if someone is bad they are bad regardless of their political leaning but too many sheep are currently jumping on the political press band wagon because there is an election around the corner.

 

[yxee]

I suppose the labour remedy to this news article would be to nationalise the housing market....

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I suppose the labour remedy to this news article would be to nationalise the housing market....

If you are looking for a simplistic solution to the housing crisis, based upon the politics of the distant past, the proposal I'd put forward would be to reintroduce the housing policies followed by Harold Macmillan in the 1950s. A massive expansion of house building and a real commitment to publicly owned and managed social housing.

 

[Gwylan]

So a left wing Labour supporting paper writes an anti-Tory article - oh the surprise.

Er... the story appeared in The Guardian, the paper that endorsed the Lib Dems at the last election, that's the Lib Dems who partner the Tories in the government

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Er... the story appeared in The Guardian, the paper that endorsed the Lib Dems at the last election, that's the Lib Dems who partner the Tories in the government

Er .... the Lib Dems who are very much left of centre.

 

[severnside gull]

If you are looking for a simplistic solution to the housing crisis, based upon the politics of the distant past, the proposal I'd put forward would be to reintroduce the housing policies followed by Harold Macmillan in the 1950s. A massive expansion of house building and a real commitment to publicly owned and managed social housing.

Aaah. The world that Thatcher destroyed.
Little wonder I find myself craving nostalgia.

 

[User removed 4]

If you are looking for a simplistic solution to the housing crisis, based upon the politics of the distant past, the proposal I'd put forward would be to reintroduce the housing policies followed by Harold Macmillan in the 1950s. A massive expansion of house building and a real commitment to publicly owned and managed social housing.

I'd agree with you there LB , as long as the right people are first in the queue , and by right people I mean native British .

 

[severnside gull]

Er .... the Lib Dems who are very much left of centre.

I suspect the modern truth is that Labour are pretty much on centre and maybe slightly to the right (compared to their standing through most of my life). The Lib Dems occupy a broadly similar position while the Tories really haven't moved at all over the last three or four decades. The press pretty similarly have a couple of moderately centerist rags while the vast majority occupy the ground from mid-right to somewhere on the edges of sanity.
There is no left in popular politics any more. Blair saw to that.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I'd agree with you there LB , as long as the right people are first in the queue , and by right people I mean native British .

Hold on! I'm getting nostalgic about Tory policies of the 1950s. If I remember rightly, Macmillan's housing policies included accommodating all the immigrant workers who were being recruited overseas to overcome the labour shortages that a booming economy was creating.

 

[GreersElbow]

FFS. Er, no. Do you only view the world in black and white?

No? You've made it obvious in previous posts that you're against the free market. Here you've called the fella a free market scumbag, associating the free market with this guy. Far from a respectable 'analysis'.

And as for this you will have to enlighten me as I've not got a clue what you're on about.

As stated in the previous, you've quite clearly inferred that people who support the free market are 'scumbags'. I'm presuming you're a socialist by your rhetoric, and I consider socialism to be a form of theft. It's tit for tat.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

As stated in the previous, you've quite clearly inferred that people who support the free market are 'scumbags'. I'm presuming you're a socialist by your rhetoric, and I consider socialism to be a form of theft. It's tit for tat.

Nah. "Property is theft". And that's an anarchist slogan, not a socialist one. Pierre-Joseph Proudon, 1840.

 

[User removed 4]

Hold on! I'm getting nostalgic about Tory policies of the 1950s. If I remember rightly, Macmillan's housing policies included accommodating all the immigrant workers who were being recruited overseas to overcome the labour shortages that a booming economy was creating.

It may well have done LB , I wasn't even born then ! I said I'd agree with you but added a caveat about who I'd like to see first in the queue.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No? You've made it obvious in previous posts that you're against the free market. Here you've called the fella a free market scumbag, associating the free market with this guy. Far from a respectable 'analysis'.


As stated in the previous, you've quite clearly inferred that people who support the free market are 'scumbags'. I'm presuming you're a socialist by your rhetoric, and I consider socialism to be a form of theft. It's tit for tat.

Can you point me to where in previous posts I've said I'm against the free-market? Because I see a single person as a free-market scumbag does not mean I infer all supporters of the free-market as scumbags...this does not make any logical sense. If I said John was a BHAFC football hooligan it would not mean that I inferred all supporters of BHAFC are hooligans would it? This is what you are implying.

I'm against what I perceive to be unethical and/or abuses of the free-market for sure. And I see this as the unacceptable side of capitalism with which I do not agree. Some markets are fine for capitalism...basic needs such as housing should have some controls. Whatever way you dress this up a guy who benefits pretty much directly from making these people homeless, or jacking up their rents to a prohibitive level, is an unethical person....a cold-hearted scumbag if you like.

And yeah I consider myself a socialist but in 2014 this does not mean I walk around with a little red book and sleep under a hammer and sickle duvet-cover.