Dieppe border patrol

[Nibble]

spin it how you want it........... Still pathetic
regards
DR

I shall regard that as commentary from one of the most discredited posters on NSC.

 

[Colossal Squid]

I don't understand why if you were in France you'd be desperate to make it across the channel to the UK.

This idea that we're an incredibly attractive place to live doesn't make any sense. There's no money here anymore. The cost of living has made the country prohibitively expensive. Even if you are lucky enough to find work, the national minimum wage is nowhere near enough to live on and contrary to popular belief you can't just rock up from overseas and start claiming benefits.

When our own population are leaving the country for work and money it seems incredibly unlikely that outsiders still see Britain as some kind of golden ticket. If you were serious about seeking a new country to call home in Europe you'd look at Germany, Denmark, Sweden or Belgium long before the UK

 

[dougdeep]

I don't understand why if you were in France you'd be desperate to make it across the channel to the UK. If you were serious about seeking a new country to call home in Europe you'd look at Germany, Denmark, Sweden or Belgium long before the UK

One word. Language.

 

[desprateseagull]

Beats me why people want to come to UK, rather than somewhere warmer!

Equalising benefits available across Europe, may stunt 'benefit tourism'.

Many media scaremongering reports about the people coming to UK, but how many Brits abroad are claiming??

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I don't understand why if you were in France you'd be desperate to make it across the channel to the UK.

This idea that we're an incredibly attractive place to live doesn't make any sense. There's no money here anymore. The cost of living has made the country prohibitively expensive. Even if you are lucky enough to find work, the national minimum wage is nowhere near enough to live on and contrary to popular belief you can't just rock up from overseas and start claiming benefits.

When our own population are leaving the country for work and money it seems incredibly unlikely that outsiders still see Britain as some kind of golden ticket. If you were serious about seeking a new country to call home in Europe you'd look at Germany, Denmark, Sweden or Belgium long before the UK

Many times I have heard immigrants on the TV saying the French treat them worse than pigs. But the bit I have never understood, if you are really that desperate you would take anything. Take for example the 1000's in Calais sleeping rough every night trying to get to the UK, they have every possibility of staying in France or choosing other countries, but don't want too. People know there is a good system in the UK, and they also know once they get here it is very difficult for us to get rid of them, and because of our system we will do everything we possibly can to help them stay here.

End of the day these people are not our problem, nor are they frances problem, however the EU are the ones who should be negotoating with governments outside the EU to stop these people making these journeys in the first place, because that is the only solution to stop it.

Whether we like it or not Calais will end up with so many people we may just be forced to take a few thousand in, because the French and quite rightly so are getting pissed off with it. Once that happens I can guarantee you even more people will be heading to Calais and so it will continue.

 

[Smirko]

The report from the Chief Inspector is suggesting that if it could have been proved that an asylum seeker had been encountered in France on a previous attempt to enter the UK illegally, then they could be returned to France under the Dublin Regulation, i.e. they would have had an opportunity to claim asylum in France and therefore should be returned to France for the French to deal with.

No law that states this, as you rightly say, but a regulation that allows countries to return asylum seekers to another EU country if it is appropriate... all rendered rather pointless by UKBA not taking fingerprints when they first turf them out of lorries in Calais.

Wrong wrong wrong! UKBA no longer exists, and yes fingerprints are taken in France at the juxtaposed controls when "turfed out of lorries"

Lot of speculation on here from people with no knowledge of how it works

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

what a pathetic answer, maybe because immigration doesn't affect you doesn't mean others aren't affected ,ever thought about that one
regards
DR

How does immigration affect you?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Parked up by the side of the Ferry terminal yesterday in Dieppe trying to kill some time before getting on the Ferry. Another British car parked next to me was approached by two men.
Overheard the conversation, it appears they where two Albanians asking the driver lots of questions about the UK. Lorry from Czech Republic parked up with driver asleep in the cab a bit further down the road from me, so it was obvious what they where eventually heading for.

Decided to clear off before they moved on to me. Drove back up the hill and noticed another small group of people hanging about. Seems like Dieppe is slowly starting to inherit the problems Calais has, so be warned don't park near the terminal. Makes sense as the entrance to the Ferry at Dieppe has now been beefed up with security.

French must be getting sick of this crap. About time we stopped making the UK such an attractive place to come, i.e benefits, we really don't help ourselfes.

I wouldn't worry too much, judging by how slowly Transmanche unloaded the ferry I was on last night and how utterly slow and inefficient the Border Control officers at Newhaven were ( two doing some work while 5 milled around in the cabin behind him doing bugger all ), any immigrant that got across will have turned on their heals and gone back to France.

 

[WATFORD zero]

How does immigration affect you?

Gives him someone to blame for his complete reluctance or inability to take advantage of all the opportunities he was born into

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I wouldn't worry too much, judging by how slowly Transmanche unloaded the ferry I was on last night and how utterly slow and inefficient the Border Control officers at Newhaven were ( two doing some work while 5 milled around in the cabin behind him doing bugger all ), any immigrant that got across will have turned on their heals and gone back to France.

Your right, border control at Newhaven is a joke. The whole port is a real shabby affair compared to Dieppe. Lovely to see scrap metal pilled up on the side of the port as you roll in to Newhaven. I don't think Transmanche will be continuing for much longer if I am honest with you. The whole ferry servive is being paid for by the French, and we wont put any money in apparently. Could be wrong? It's why you don't get any British people working on the ferry which I was would say is fair enough, apart from the cleaners at this end and the port staff.

Someone in the councill turned decided it was a good idea to turn down Tesco's offer of building a new supermarket, which also meant regeneration of Newhaven Railway Station. That might have gone some way to get regeneration of the port going, but the council decided to go with ASDA's plan instead, and guess what ASDA have now pulled out. Newhaven is once again left with nothing.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Your right, border control at Newhaven is a joke. The whole port is a real shabby affair compared to Dieppe. Lovely to see scrap metal pilled up on the side of the port as you roll in to Newhaven. I don't think Transmanche will be continuing for much longer if I am honest with you. The whole ferry servive is being paid for by the French, and we wont put any money in apparently. Could be wrong? It's why you don't get any British people working on the ferry which I was would say is fair enough, apart from the cleaners at this end and the port staff.

Someone in the councill turned decided it was a good idea to turn down Tesco's offer of building a new supermarket, which also meant regeneration of Newhaven Railway Station. That might have gone some way to get regeneration of the port going, but the council decided to go with ASDA's plan instead, and guess what ASDA have now pulled out. Newhaven is once again left with nothing.

It will be a pity if Newhaven closes as I use it regularly to get to France and I'd rather take 4-5 hours off my driving the other side and settle down for the 4 hours on the ferry with a good book. That said Transmanche really do need to go to Dover and see how to load and unload a ferry quickly.

 

[MattBackHome]

I bloody love Vegemite.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It will be a pity if Newhaven closes as I use it regularly to get to France and I'd rather take 4-5 hours off my driving the other side and settle down for the 4 hours on the ferry with a good book. That said Transmanche really do need to go to Dover and see how to load and unload a ferry quickly.

Will be a shame. I use it myself too. Part of the problem is they only have the one ferry as you know. They can't offer day trips with the times of the Ferry. I think there losing a lot of money here because of that. Other things, the amount of people who don't really know about the Newhaven >> Dieppe service is amazing. They don't advertise all that well. As you know the selling point of this service was always the fact that you can get to Paris quicker.

 

[Nibble]

what a pathetic answer, maybe because immigration doesn't affect you doesn't mean others aren't affected ,ever thought about that one
regards
DR

Immigration has and does affect me. The Asian nurses that came and sat with my mother every night allowing her to pass away at home, the Sri Lankan that turns my green tomatoes into delicious curry, the Polish mate that gives me building work when I don't have enough regular work and also helps my elderly Stepfather around the house and allotment, the Pakistani chap who delivers free manure to all the elderly people in the area, the Polish family that helped my friend empty their basement of water when we had floods earlier in the year. I could go on but you get the point. It all hinges on how you interact wit your neighbours.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

How does immigration affect you?

It's the illegal ones that get right up my nose people taking the piss why I pay my taxes and the fact that my NIC contribution are helping out all the european fly by nights
Regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Gives him someone to blame for his complete reluctance or inability to take advantage of all the opportunities he was born into

Haha what a lemon
Regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Immigration has and does affect me. The Asian nurses that came and sat with my mother every night allowing her to pass away at home, the Sri Lankan that turns my green tomatoes into delicious curry, the Polish mate that gives me building work when I don't have enough regular work and also helps my elderly Stepfather around the house and allotment, the Pakistani chap who delivers free manure to all the elderly people in the area, the Polish family that helped my friend empty their basement of water when we had floods earlier in the year. I could go on but you get the point. It all hinges on how you interact wit your neighbours.

Yeah i get your point , but what about the scummy somalians and all the other criminal groups that set up camp over here and take the piss don't deny it happens because you know it's true
Regards
DR

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

It's the illegal ones that get right up my nose people taking the piss why I pay my taxes and the fact that my NIC contribution are helping out all the european fly by nights
Regards
DR

Sounds to me like it's just a cover for knee jerk racism. Are you racist?
I generally find this type of attitude comes from someone less aware of their consciousness/thought processes, they're in pain somehow, physically or emotionally, and because their not able to find the source, they bundle it up and let it out in an animalistic way. In my experience racists generally seem to have attained the conscious level similar to a pig.
Apologies if this is not you, and instead your living in fear, propagated by media for use as politician's scapegoats. They're not out to get you!
If it does sum you up, unfortunately you won't have understood any of this. Oink!
Regards
PP

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Sounds to me like it's just a cover for knee jerk racism. Are you racist?
I generally find this type of attitude comes from someone less aware of their consciousness/thought processes, they're in pain somehow, physically or emotionally, and because their not able to find the source, they bundle it up and let it out in an animalistic way. In my experience racists generally seem to have attained the conscious level similar to a pig.
Apologies if this is not you, and instead your living in fear, propagated by media for use as politician's scapegoats. They're not out to get you!
If it does sum you up, unfortunately you won't have understood any of this. Oink!
Regards
PP

thanks for your time and effort on that one
regards
DR

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

thanks for your time and effort on that one
regards
DR

You're welcome. Enjoyed it!

Regards
PP