Dieppe border patrol

[Deleted member 22389]

Like the tens of millions of Romanians, and Bulgarians that swamped the country in January?

So because nobody turned up in January you think there was nothing to worry about. The numbers from Romania and Bulgaria have been steadily increasing to this country month on month. Sorry but to have a politician standing at Luton airport was just plain idiotic. It really just shows how out of touch they are, and how out of touch they are with the situation. There where Romanians already here before January.

 

[daveinprague]

Mate, you were one of the people that assured me of a flood of Romanians, and Bulgarians in January...
How did you know the people in Dieppe were Albanian incidentally? How did you decide what was going to happen next was 'obvious'?

Oh yeah, and what sort of questions were they asking exactly? How to sign on?

 

[scoobiewhite]

The problem with these people it is that they are trying to get to the UK in order to claim political asylum. This is illegal as because to make a legitimate claim, it should be made in the first "safe" country they arrive in.

By choosing to claim in the UK they must have travelled through at least one other safe country prior to arriving in France.

What, like the really nice Albanian blokes who run the excellent car wash in church street NCP.

They don't seem like asylum seekers to me. Just really hard working blokes who do a great job at a reasonable price.

Their English is getting pretty fluent now as well.

Despite the fact that we get on and have a laugh and they keep an eye on my mg midget from time to time, yep they're scum and I hope beyond hope that I never live next door to them.

I'm sure I don't need to clarify the sarcasm in this post.

And yes some immigrants are chancers or criminals. But so are lots of people.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

A contributing factor for immigrants wanting to come to the UK is the fact we speak English. For example in Romania, English is the main foreign language at 29% compared to, say, German at 6%. You will see similar trends all over Eastern Europe, another example being Bulgaria where English is spoken as a foreign language by 23%, compared to French at 9%.

...or we could just blindly assume they come here for the benefits.

I heard that Romanians preferred Italy because the language is easier and closer to learn. Obviously with the Italian economy the way it is, the UK the next destination.

 

[daveinprague]

If anything, would have though France would be a preferred Romanian destination...not sure how, or why, but there are apparently similarities in the language...all the people we have at work on a a French speaking project are Romanian.

 

[JCL666]

If anything, would have though France would be a preferred Romanian destination...not sure how, or why, but there are apparently similarities in the language...all the people we have at work on a a French speaking project are Romanian.

I work in Paris. There are loads of Romanians here.

In fact the whole city is FULL of foreigners. They all STINK of cheese and speak some weird lingo known as "FRENCH"..... I don't trust any of them.

 

[daveinprague]

and nor should you. They are, after all, our natural enemy.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

http://claritaslux.com/blog/italian-language-romanian/

 

[daveinprague]

Yeah, looks like the influence of Latin Rome.

'French, Italian and English words[edit]
Since the 19th century, many modern words were borrowed from the other Romance languages, especially from French and Italian (for example: birou "desk, office", avion "airplane", exploata "exploit"). It was estimated that about 38% of the number of words in Romanian are of French and/or Italian origin (in many cases both languages); and adding this to the words that were inherited from Latin, about 75%–85% of Romanian words can be traced to Latin. The use of these Romanianized French and Italian loanwords has tended to increase at the expense of Slavic loanwords, many of which have become rare or fallen out of use. As second or third languages, French and Italian themselves are better known in Romania than in Romania's neighbors. Along with the switch to the Latin alphabet in Moldova, the re-latinization of the vocabulary has tended to reinforce the Latin character of the language.

In the process of lexical modernization, many of the words already existing as Latin direct heritage, as a part of its core or popular vocabulary, have been doubled by words borrowed from other Romance languages, thus forming a further and more modern and literary lexical layer. Typically, the popular word is a noun and the borrowed word an adjective'

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

And yes some immigrants are chancers or criminals. But so are lots of people.

But surely you understand it's far more acceptable to be a chancer/criminal if you're British for some reason?

Maybe it'd because, If nothing else, you've got more chance of them having a Del Boy-esque accent and a rogueish charm about them...

 

[CheeseRolls]

I read that there were cultural ties between Bucharest and Paris and that large parts of the city were heavily influenced by Parisian design.

Which other potential EU members, have a preference for the UK ? I know that the Turks tend to favour Germany, although I am not entirely sure why, historically.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

There was an economic boom in Germany in the 60's which resulted in a shortage of labour, which was solved by a trade of labour agreement with Turkey and a diaspora. It was only meant to be temporary, but fast forward to 2014 and there are literally millions of Turks in Germany now, so it's desirable for Turks to join those communities.

About three million Germans of Turkish heritage these days.

 

[fataddick]

There was an economic boom in Germany in the 60's which resulted in a shortage of labour, which was solved by a trade of labour agreement with Turkey and a diaspora. It was only meant to be temporary, but fast forward to 2014 and there are literally millions of Turks in Germany now, so it's desirable for Turks to join those communities.

Also, Turkey fought on Germany's side in WW1, so many may have settled (and been looked on favourably as immigrants) for that reason to. Similar to the way that, after neighbours Ireland, the Poles formed the largest immigrant group in the UK (our allies in WW2, half of the pilots in the Battle of Britain, etc). The dim types moaning about Eastern Europe immigration and Polish builders might want reminding that there have been half a million Polish people/descendants in the UK since the 1940s.

As for the UK being a desirable destination due to benefits, you what? We have amongst the lowest benefit rates and highest cost of living in Europe. Due to unemployment (my boss of 20 years became a crystal meth addict and vanished off the face of the planet, taking the company and a year of my owed wages with him) I will likely be moving to Eastern Europe later this year. Fully furnished one bed flat in the centre of Prague, all bills inc WiFi included, for 320 Euros a month and beer at a quid a pint - what's not to like. You can live like a king on a grand a month, in Brighton you can barely scrape by on triple that

 

[daveinprague]

Where you going to be working fataddick?

btw, dont call them East Europeans...they get a bit digital about that haha...central Europeans is preferred..

 

[fataddick]

Where you going to be working fataddick?

btw, dont call them East Europeans...they get a bit digital about that haha...central Europeans is preferred..

I'll bear that in mind. I work in TV (producer/scriptwriter) and I'm having to get by on bits of freelance work since my full time job disappeared with my junkie ex-boss. Should get confirmation in the Autumn of £10-£15k of work over the course of the next year; UK based, but only one meeting every 3-4 months to go to and everything else will be working from home. So I'm planning to move to somewhere abroad where I can live on that amount (as it wouldn't even cover my rent/bills in Brighton). Could be anywhere, but favour a city with enough tourism to get by with only speaking English. Plus I saw some report that said there are only two socialist countries left in Europe - the Czech Republic and Scotland. I ain't gonna move to Scotland, so Prague is my first choice...

 

[daveinprague]

I'll bear that in mind. I work in TV (producer/scriptwriter) and I'm having to get by on bits of freelance work since my full time job disappeared with my junkie ex-boss. Should get confirmation in the Autumn of £10-£15k of work over the course of the next year; UK based, but only one meeting every 3-4 months to go to and everything else will be working from home. So I'm planning to move to somewhere abroad where I can live on that amount (as it wouldn't even cover my rent/bills in Brighton). Could be anywhere, but favour a city with enough tourism to get by with only speaking English. Plus I saw some report that said there are only two socialist countries left in Europe - the Czech Republic and Scotland. I ain't gonna move to Scotland, so Prague is my first choice...

Ive certainly lived in worse places.. ..Not sure if its socialist or not tbh...its more common for them to have no governement whatsoever ... didnt have one for 6 months, and I didnt even notice...
try this place for rentals....it bypasses agencies/commissions.....deal directly with landlord..
Thats a list of all Prague currently for this site..


http://www.bezrealitky.cz/vyhledat#...1&czech_republic=0&czech_republic=1&foreign=0

 

[Leighgull]

Oh yeah making wages similar across the whole EU or even the world................... that won't f up 95% of the economy

But yes at least everyone would be on the doll together

No one shares my doll mate.

Standards.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

We just have to accept that we are a wonderful country and everyone wants a slice of us. London is the sixth biggest French city, I believe.

 

[Brovion]

About three million Germans of Turkish heritage these days.

Isn't also Berlin the fourth-largest Turkish city? (In terms of population).

Anyway, the really important thing is ... what do we call the Germanic Turks? Krurks? Trauts? Truns? (I'm sure someone can take offence at at least one of those).

 

[Leighgull]

Also, Turkey fought on Germany's side in WW1, so many may have settled (and been looked on favourably as immigrants) for that reason to. Similar to the way that, after neighbours Ireland, the Poles formed the largest immigrant group in the UK (our allies in WW2, half of the pilots in the Battle of Britain, etc). The dim types moaning about Eastern Europe immigration and Polish builders might want reminding that there have been half a million Polish people/descendants in the UK since the 1940s.

As for the UK being a desirable destination due to benefits, you what? We have amongst the lowest benefit rates and highest cost of living in Europe. Due to unemployment (my boss of 20 years became a crystal meth addict and vanished off the face of the planet, taking the company and a year of my owed wages with him) I will likely be moving to Eastern Europe later this year. Fully furnished one bed flat in the centre of Prague, all bills inc WiFi included, for 320 Euros a month and beer at a quid a pint - what's not to like. You can live like a king on a grand a month, in Brighton you can barely scrape by on triple that

p
I spent a couple of years working in Germany and I can confidently say they aren't fond of Turks.