Dieppe border patrol

[fataddick]

Ive certainly lived in worse places.. ..Not sure if its socialist or not tbh...its more common for them to have no governement whatsoever ... didnt have one for 6 months, and I didnt even notice...
try this place for rentals....it bypasses agencies/commissions.....deal directly with landlord..
Thats a list of all Prague currently for this site..


http://www.bezrealitky.cz/vyhledat#...1&czech_republic=0&czech_republic=1&foreign=0

Many thanks.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Anyway, the really important thing is ... what do we call the Germanic Turks?

Sami Khedira amd Mesut Ozil?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Don't flatter yourself. The UK isn't a special country. Immigration happens elsewhere as well.

WHAT A SWERVE, go and live elsewhere then
regards
DR

 

[Dan Aitch]

I'm confused why this thread is entitled "Dieppe Border Patrol". Are the French supposed to stop people trying to get to England?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Ha. Brilliant. Sitting in your car getting on to the ferry, sounds like quite a nice thing to do but you decide to spend the time working yourself up about immigration. Is there a moment of the day you give it a rest?

what a pathetic answer, maybe because immigration doesn't affect you doesn't mean others aren't affected ,ever thought about that one
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

We just have to accept that we are a wonderful country and everyone wants a slice of us. London is the sixth biggest French city, I believe.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL, what a thing to say
regards
DR

 

[Barrel of Fun]

WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL, what a thing to say
regards
DR

I'm suggesting that whilst we have our failings, we're a pretty decent country. I'm not suggesting we invite all and sundry to join us.

Best wishes x

 

[Thunder Bolt]

WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL, what a thing to say
regards
DR

There's no point in getting all uptight about it either. It won't change anything. Learn to live with people and you'll be surprised how well you get along.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I know that the Turks tend to favour Germany, although I am not entirely sure why, historically.

There was a labour shortage in the early 60s due to the economic boom and the wall going up. The country dealt with this by inviting guest workers to Germany and a large number of Turks responded.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

There's no point in getting all uptight about it either. It won't change anything. Learn to live with people and you'll be surprised how well you get along.

sounds good on paper and i'm not getting uptight but in reality i don't think that sort of thing's happening in certain parts of the country is it
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I'm suggesting that whilst we have our failings, we're a pretty decent country. I'm not suggesting we invite all and sundry to join us.

Best wishes x

well, it came across like that
regards
DR

 

[Creaky]

The problem with these people it is that they are trying to get to the UK in order to claim political asylum. This is illegal as because to make a legitimate claim, it should be made in the first "safe" country they arrive in.

By choosing to claim in the UK they must have travelled through at least one other safe country prior to arriving in France.

Urban myth.

There is nothing under International Law that requires asylum seekers to seek refuge in the first safe country they arrive in.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

sounds good on paper and i'm not getting uptight but in reality i don't think that sort of thing's happening in certain parts of the country is it
regards
DR

We can't change other people but we can change ourselves. I've lived in a predominantly Asian area in the north for a while, and got on well with my neighbours.

 

[Dan Aitch]

Urban myth.

There is nothing under International Law that requires asylum seekers to seek refuge in the first safe country they arrive in.

Paragraph 7.11 onwards of this report suggests that there is - http://icinspector.independent.gov....n-Inspection-of-Juxtaposed-Controls-Final.pdf - or at least, suggests that asylum claimants in the UK who were previously in France can be returned to France under the terms of the Dublin Regulation... whatever that is.

Edit - nice and informative Guardian article - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/sep/21/claim-asylum-uk-legal-position

 

[Creaky]

Paragraph 7.11 onwards of this report suggests that there is - http://icinspector.independent.gov....n-Inspection-of-Juxtaposed-Controls-Final.pdf - or at least, suggests that asylum claimants in the UK who were previously in France can be returned to France under the terms of the Dublin Regulation... whatever that is.

Edit - nice and informative Guardian article - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/sep/21/claim-asylum-uk-legal-position

From the Guardian article -

There is no obligation under the refugee convention or any other instrument of international law that requires refugees to seek asylum in any particular country.

The article goes on to say -

There has, however, been a longstanding "first country of asylum" principle in international law by which countries are expected to take refugees fleeing from persecution in a neighbouring state. This principle has developed so that, in practice, an asylum seeker who had the opportunity to claim asylum in another country is liable to be returned there in order for his or her claim to be determined.

. . . .

The immigration rules state, however, that the secretary of state will only remove an asylum seeker to a safe third country if there is clear evidence that the country concerned will admit the person. This will be so if the person has arrived in the UK via another safe country and had an opportunity at the border of or within that country to claim asylum. The mere fact that the person has passed through another country does not necessarily mean there was an opportunity to claim asylum; if an agent planned the journey and the person was hidden in a vehicle for the duration of it, for example, there is unlikely to have been any realistic opportunity for the person to approach the authorities

As I posted there is no legal requirement under International Law for refugees to claim asylum in the first safe country they pass through

 

[Nibble]

what a pathetic answer, maybe because immigration doesn't affect you doesn't mean others aren't affected ,ever thought about that one
regards
DR

It wasn't an answer. It was an observation.

 

[Dan Aitch]

From the Guardian article -



The article goes on to say -



As I posted there is no legal requirement under International Law for refugees to claim asylum in the first safe country they pass through

The report from the Chief Inspector is suggesting that if it could have been proved that an asylum seeker had been encountered in France on a previous attempt to enter the UK illegally, then they could be returned to France under the Dublin Regulation, i.e. they would have had an opportunity to claim asylum in France and therefore should be returned to France for the French to deal with.

No law that states this, as you rightly say, but a regulation that allows countries to return asylum seekers to another EU country if it is appropriate... all rendered rather pointless by UKBA not taking fingerprints when they first turf them out of lorries in Calais.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

We can't change other people but we can change ourselves. I've lived in a predominantly Asian area in the north for a while, and got on well with my neighbours.

i'm sure you did but if find the we can change ourselves really concerning how much have we already conceded in this country
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

it wasn't an answer. It was an observation.

spin it how you want it........... Still pathetic
regards
DR

 

[Creaky]

The report from the Chief Inspector is suggesting that if it could have been proved that an asylum seeker had been encountered in France on a previous attempt to enter the UK illegally, then they could be returned to France under the Dublin Regulation, i.e. they would have had an opportunity to claim asylum in France and therefore should be returned to France for the French to deal with.

No law that states this, as you rightly say, but a regulation that allows countries to return asylum seekers to another EU country if it is appropriate... all rendered rather pointless by UKBA not taking fingerprints when they first turf them out of lorries in Calais.

From that report -

The Dublin Regulation EC No. 343/2003 was implemented on 1 September 2003 to determine which State should be responsible for examining an application for asylum made within EU territory. If an asylum applicant had previously been fingerprinted in another member
state, in relation to an asylum claim or illegal entry, the original state may be required to take responsibility for considering their asylum

claim.

If I'm reading that correctly then if an individual has already been involved in an asylum claim in another country or investigated as an illegal immigrant then they may be returned to that country - seems reasonable and is not the same as saying that an individual must claim asylum in the first safe country they enter.