Did Gordon Brown save the world?

[Barrel of Fun]

BBC NEWS | Politics | Campaigner 'glues himself to PM'

 

[Barrel of Fun]

The correct link is of course...

BBC NEWS | Politics | PM downplays 'saving world' gaffe

 

[NMH]

If he did save the world, the tories would claim it was their idea, a policy they were going to enact anyway, and labour stole the idea from them.

Then, at the first opportunity, they would destroy the world.

 

[Bluejuice]

Classic!

 

[clapham_gull]

Heard it was this man

 

[csider]

BBC NEWS | Politics | Campaigner 'glues himself to PM'

dan glass.............he was the knob who was the student union fella who was up in arms against the new stadium??

 

[steward 433]

dan glass.............he was the knob who was the student union fella who was up in arms against the new stadium??

That is indeed the plain stupid idiot fuckwit.

 

[csider]

That is indeed the plain stupid idiot fuckwit.

(gl)asshole.

 

[Buzzer]

If he did save the world, the tories would claim it was their idea, a policy they were going to enact anyway, and labour stole the idea from them.

Then, at the first opportunity, they would destroy the world.

f*** sake, NMH. You do talk some scollobs when it comes to the Tories. Destroy the world? How about some informed and intelligent opinion rather than that little nugget?

For the record, the Tories are vehemently opposed to the Keynesian model put forward by Labour. They will NOT commit to bankrupting Britain as Labour are doing.

Interestingly, the Germans agree with the Tories. Just see what the German Finance Minister has to say about our great saviour:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7776462.stm


Criticising the UK government's decision to cut VAT from 17.5% to 15%, Mr Steinbruck questioned how effective this will be. "Are you really going to buy a DVD player because it now costs £39.10 instead of £39.90?" he said. "All this will do is raise Britain's debt to a level that will take a whole generation to work off."

Saying the UK government was now "tossing around billions", Mr Steinbruck questioned why Britain was now closely following the high public spending model put forward by 20th Century economist John Maynard Keynes. "The switch from decades of supply-side politics all the way to a crass Keynesianism is breathtaking," he said. "When I ask about the origins of the [financial] crisis, economists I respect tell me it is the credit-financed growth of recent years and decades. "Isn't this the same mistake everyone is suddenly making again, under all the public pressure?"

EU commissioner McCreedy has also warned about our spiralling debt and such is the schism between the Germans and the blindingy stupid and reckless British Government that apparently Gordon Brown is giving Frau Merkel the cold shoulder. This from Mark Mardell on his BBC blog

Gordon Brown is hosting a "European global economic summit" with President Sarkozy and the Commission's President Barroso at Downing Street today. When we ask Mrs Merkel's office why she is not going, the indignant reply is "Ask Gordon Brown why she hasn't been invited".

So we've gone from Stalin to Mr Bean to Robert Maxwell in one year.

Oh joy. All hail our all-powerful leader. What a f***ing mess.

 

[Slough Seagull]

dan glass.............he was the knob who was the student union fella who was up in arms against the new stadium??

Do these people actually believe what they 'protest' about or are they just hoping to be noticed by pretending to be 'radical' as their gateway to the establishment?

 

[steward 433]

Do these people actually believe what they 'protest' about or are they just hoping to be noticed by pretending to be 'radical' as their gateway to the establishment?

Dan Glass would jump on any bandwagon if it meant he was in the spotlight.

BTW my nephew decked him when they were at uni together

 

[Buzzer]

And see what Nick Fraser in the Independent says about my hero, Von Hayek's absolute demolition of Keynes' theory. (And check out Keynes feeble response at Hayek's prediction that increasing state power was a danger to democracy itself - not dissimilar to the present Labour Government's response to criticism that their Big Brother approach is killing personal freedoms)

The most penetrating criticism of Keynes came from Friedrich von Hayek, an Austrian lecturing at the London School of Economics, who famously became Mrs Thatcher's favourite economist. Hayek had witnessed the catastrophe of state during the hyperinflation of the 1920s. He had his own, purely economic reasons for disagreeing with Keynes; but he also suggested that the Keynes style of liberalism, by increasing the scope of state power, would end by extinguishing the bourgeois freedoms it purported to save. Somewhat unconvincingly, Keynes responded that "dangerous acts" were all right so long as they were perpetrated by the right people – ie, by the progressive, socially congenial elite educated at Oxbridge or Harvard. Keynes remained a statist who believed that "moderate planning" was better than laissez-faire.

You could do worse than read "The Road to Serfdom" by Hayek on why Brown and Darling and Jacqui Smith are taking us down a very dangerous road.

 

[looney]

Brown caused this problem in the first place(although techniclly its bill clinton for underwriting the subprime market in the 90's.), now hes attempting the biggest election bribe in history which will at best mean we dont go bankrupt.


Leftwingers whine for f***ing years about something called "Trickle down" saying it doesn't work. Probably something they herd from some drunken republican on the fringe of politics and swallowed it as a universal beleif.

Now they are attempting the same thing but government spending reflects a smaller percentage of economic growth and is likly to have less impact even if it did work. Buzzer somes the rest up quite well.

The guy is a f***ing failure and a loser who needs ejecting asap for the countries sake.

 

[looney]

You could do worse than read "The Road to Serfdom" by Hayek on why Brown and Darling and Jacqui Smith are taking us down a very dangerous road.

There was a cartoon version published that takes about 10 minutes to read, even the likes of Dandyman could focus for that long.

Although hayek deserves all the credit he is due plus a noble award. Remember he also compromises with authoritarianism. With his "Strong state that guarantees a free society" thesis and when wondering into areas far from economics became a bit flakey.


Still we should rejoice that there was someone around to shred Keynsian state worshipping rhetoric and half baked thinking.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I back Keynes - on the simple grounds that (i) he was right; and (ii) he lived at Firle. And we know about things in Firle.

Mind you, Robert Skidelsky (who was Thatcher's economic guru) also lived in Firle ... in the same house that Keynes lived in.

What a small world.








Glad to hear that Gordon has saved it, though.

 

[Easy 10]

Gordon has done f*** all for me.
I've got a 25% chance of being made redundent a week Friday. Didn't see THAT bastard coming 12 months ago.

 

[Tory Boy]

Then, at the first opportunity, they would destroy the world.

TB

 

[Arthritic Toe]

I cannot believe that Brown's popularity is on the up again. The man has presided over the biggest economic cockup in history, and we're letting him off. He should be put in the stocks.

 

[Trufflehound]

BBC NEWS | Politics | Campaigner 'glues himself to PM'

'...but Downing Street said there had been "no stickiness of any significance".'


Ah, the old "Bill Clinton" defence...

 

[Robbie G]

I cannot believe that Brown's popularity is on the up again. The man has presided over the biggest economic cockup in history, and we're letting him off. He should be put in the stocks.

Difference between presiding over something, and causing something. The latter, he did not do.