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[Albion] Deniz Undav - season long loan to Stuttgart confirmed
- Thread starter Clive Walker
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um bongo molongo
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I wonder whether a change of manager makes it more likely he’ll return. I don’t believe the ‘personal reasons’ stuff.
I would absolutely love it if you're right.
Sadly I doubt that you are.
Happy to be proven wrong
Not sure if anyone has posted this already, but I just had a look at Undav's appearances / goals stats, specifically in games he has STARTED.
They are:
25 goals in 33 starts in the Belgian top flight
5 goals in 6 starts in the Premier League
18 goals in 23 starts in the Bundesliga
How would people feel if we were linked with a 27 year old with those stats now?
They are:
25 goals in 33 starts in the Belgian top flight
5 goals in 6 starts in the Premier League
18 goals in 23 starts in the Bundesliga
How would people feel if we were linked with a 27 year old with those stats now?
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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I would have an erection
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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I think a lot of the assumptions about next season have been thrown in the air.
I personally don't see how Undav thrives in a RDZ team. But now, who knows?
ROSM
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What RDZ wanted from strikers is very different from the way others ask for. Having said which, undav was still effective in that model.
Bit a new manager may want something different. Welbeck, ferguson, undav, pedro will all be on a new learning curve.
Bit a new manager may want something different. Welbeck, ferguson, undav, pedro will all be on a new learning curve.
Milano
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If the two big chances that fell to Pedro yesterday had been to Undav (or Evan) I’d bet he scores at least one of them. Love Pedro but he’s not the finished article yet in front of goal.
If we don’t get Undav back then we need to go into the market IMO, we can’t risk a campaign with Welbeck & Fergie as our only CFs, I don’t see Pedro as a CF.
If we don’t get Undav back then we need to go into the market IMO, we can’t risk a campaign with Welbeck & Fergie as our only CFs, I don’t see Pedro as a CF.
The second half one - the ball arrives behind him, and he actually does a really good job of adjusting to hook it towards goal - and only a really good bit of defending from Casemiro on the line prevents him scoring. I don't see Ferguson or Undav doing any more with that cross.
The first half one, is a terrible miss at the point of Joao Pedro's actual SHOT - but there is not a chance that either of the other two produce the footwork that created the opportunity in the first place.
I have one now.
Behind Enemy Lines
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Spot on. I can't see Undav returning. Why would he when he's doing so well there and has Champions League football to look forward to.
A replacement will be have to be found.
um bongo molongo
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I agree with this. I remember Calvert Lewin saying that under Ancelotti he was told to, whenever possible, shoot first time without taking a touch. And he had that great period under him and has not looked the same player since. Feels like Ferguson could use similar advice, and Undav already does it. Coaching strikers/finishing is probably an underrated skill.
On a related point, how on earth did Ancelotti end up managing Everton?!
Because we own him for another two seasons, and they don't? He doesn't play for them anymore, so he does not have Champions League football to look forward to.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
- Nov 15, 2006
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If Stuttgart don’t stump up the agreed loan to purchase fee he WILL be coming back
The lure of McKenna or Russell Martin > CL in front of 60,000. Umm ... a difficult one.
Hometownglory
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- Jan 12, 2014
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He has to come back. Madness letting him go in the first place.