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[Albion] Davy Propper







Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Hmmm this presents a problem.

Obviously Davy now needs a haircut before playing England.
But
Davy's sumptuous hair needs to be ready for the start of the season.


Yet another classic 'club v country' dilemma.
 


Propper has somehow had a free ride this season. He's been utter shithouse.

Zero assists, 1 goal (a late consolation). I waited most of the season to see him actually DO something, but other than a couple of nice pirouettes and a flash touch here and there, he was anonymous. This is not a player who steps up. I hope Potter can get a tune out of him, maybe playing him 15 yards further forward. Stephens got dogs abuse all year, but Dave was no better.

16 goals in 67 for PSV
1 goal in 65 for us.

We seem to specialise in turning players into shit.

You mean he wasn't given an assist for that lovely pass for Gross to score at Old Trafford ? No wonder he hasn't got any !
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Nice window for Ajax to make their minds up about him, away from the constraints of playing in his own half
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Nice window for Ajax to make their minds up about him, away from the constraints of playing in his own half
The international transfer window doesn't open until June 11th anyway, so they'll have to wait until then to swoop.
 






chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Propper has somehow had a free ride this season. He's been utter shithouse.

Zero assists, 1 goal (a late consolation). .

PS: There was nearly half an hour to go and it took us to 2-1 v Leicester. I was there - it was one of our better performances in the 2nd bit of the season. 1 goal across 2 seasons is disappointing to say the least but that goal v Leicester could have been an important one.
 






sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
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Propper has somehow had a free ride this season. He's been utter shithouse.

Zero assists, 1 goal (a late consolation). I waited most of the season to see him actually DO something, but other than a couple of nice pirouettes and a flash touch here and there, he was anonymous. This is not a player who steps up. I hope Potter can get a tune out of him, maybe playing him 15 yards further forward. Stephens got dogs abuse all year, but Dave was no better.

16 goals in 67 for PSV
1 goal in 65 for us.

We seem to specialise in turning players into shit.

If there's ever a post which misuses stats, then this is it. You make the point that maybe we'll get a tune out of him by pushing him higher up the pitch and then you use goal stats to berate his performance.

If you go and look at the stats, he and Stephens are essentially identical stat wise and anyone that has watched the team for most of this year will know that they spent the first half of the season as the deep lying pair in front of the CBs, and the second half of the year as a flat three in front of the CBs, with neither ever really crossing the half way line. What does that tell you?
 


Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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Propper is another who was criminally underused by an overly defensive manager. Brilliant footballer, I thought everyone could see that but apparently not.

He'll thrive in an attacking team, I think we have a number of players who will be totally transformed next season.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Propper is another who was criminally underused by an overly defensive manager. Brilliant footballer, I thought everyone could see that but apparently not.

He'll thrive in an attacking team, I think we have a number of players who will be totally transformed next season.

Those who like to go over the half way line will certainly be a revelation imo. We know all about our defensive strengths which I am sure Potter will need to employ during matches, and be very grateful to CH for I imagine.

Best of both worlds next season I hope.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
Propper has somehow had a free ride this season. He's been utter shithouse.

Zero assists, 1 goal (a late consolation). I waited most of the season to see him actually DO something, but other than a couple of nice pirouettes and a flash touch here and there, he was anonymous. This is not a player who steps up. I hope Potter can get a tune out of him, maybe playing him 15 yards further forward. Stephens got dogs abuse all year, but Dave was no better.

16 goals in 67 for PSV
1 goal in 65 for us.

We seem to specialise in turning players into shit.
On balance I agree. The lack of "stepping up" has underwhelmed me. In his defence, he probably needs a lot more movement in front of him to be seen at his best.
 


maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
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Zabbar- Malta
Propper is another who was criminally underused by an overly defensive manager. Brilliant footballer, I thought everyone could see that but apparently not.

He'll thrive in an attacking team, I think we have a number of players who will be totally transformed next season.

I suppose it comes down to what people want.

1. Boring , defensive 1.0 defeats
2. Exciting,attacking 3.5 defeats

Hopefully exciting, attacking 4.3 wins :)
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Propper is another who was criminally underused by an overly defensive manager. Brilliant footballer, I thought everyone could see that but apparently not.

He'll thrive in an attacking team, I think we have a number of players who will be totally transformed next season.

I'm excited about Potter, he's a progressive coach with fantastic potential. Of course i want him to succeed but he's untested, its a risk and he won't have the funds this summer to completely overhaul the squad. So this assumption that he a) will "totally" transform every player b) make us an attacking , successful team just like that c) and that the Premier League for the Albion, presumably will still be a squad with players getting Burnley wages, will no longer be a hard slog is optimistic to say the least.
 






Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
I fully believe in the players in our squad. Whatever they're getting paid, they're more than up to the standard of this league. What we haven't been is able to compete fully because we didn't have a manager/coaching staff prepared to allow the team to play to their full potential. We have seen snippets of it, when we've been losing games and needing to inject some urgency. Hopefully, Potter will have us playing with that purpose from the start of games, and not just if we go a goal down. I'm not saying we're automatically going to be in the top 10. But we shouldn't be anywhere near 17th.
 


lost in london

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Dec 10, 2003
1,838
London
Can you imagine being judged by a bunch of strangers on your ability in your job, when for the last two years you've been asked to stand in for a colleague in another department? Basically that.

He's obviously got the talent and composure, he's just been deployed in the wrong part of the pitch. The fact we stayed up is a credit to him being able to turn into a backs-to-the-wall, never getting past half way pseudo centre back.
 


Jul 5, 2003
6,776
Bristol
Still don't think there is room for both he and Gross in a pacey, attacking line-up.
For me, one of our biggest recent mistakes was signing two decent but slow number 10s, and then refusing to play one there ever and the other there last season.
 




sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
4,085
I'm excited about Potter, he's a progressive coach with fantastic potential. Of course i want him to succeed but he's untested, its a risk and he won't have the funds this summer to completely overhaul the squad. So this assumption that he a) will "totally" transform every player b) make us an attacking , successful team just like that c) and that the Premier League for the Albion, presumably will still be a squad with players getting Burnley wages, will no longer be a hard slog is optimistic to say the least.

You're totally right. In fact you're right on every single point. And yet, as a person who wanted Hughton out by the end, I'm glad he's here primarily because I just want to have some hope and potential enjoyment out of going to football again. Isn't that why we go ultimately? Because of the hope that things can get better even if we have to be a bit realistic about the speed with which they become better?
 


Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
22,115
Cowfold
Propper is another who was criminally underused by an overly defensive manager. Brilliant footballer, I thought everyone could see that but apparently not.

He'll thrive in an attacking team, I think we have a number of players who will be totally transformed next season.

In the case of Davy Propper that's very true, he should be pushed much further forward, (even playing as a numer 10), and scoring far more goals for us.
 


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