[Football] David Pleat Daily Mail and The BBC/R5.

[Beach Seagull]

Truth is the Daily Mail does have some good writers and decent articles.

It's the rotten undercurrent of its editorial direction, and the attitude of many of its readers, that makes me dislike it.

Could you elaborate please and how many DM readers do you know?

 

[Beach Seagull]

Allan Green - I liked him. Stood up to the aggressive bullies in the game Allardyce, Pulis and their mate Sir Alex Taggart. Plus if a match was shite, he said so. Making him unpopular amongst NSC’ers who like the faux happy clappy football product.

David Pleat - I’ve never rated him, along with Garth Crooks. Because Pleat’s old now, he’s getting the reverence normally reserved for classy Jimmy Armfield types.

Do you listen to TalkSport? I don’t see it as being your thing. It’s dumbed down radio listening (other than Hawksby, Jacobs, Glendenning, Danny Kelly and Rushden), a cycle every 15 minutes of 9 minutes of banal shock-jock noise, then 6 minutes of zzzzzzzzzz travel non-news and ads targeted to subbies and white van man.

The BBC have gone that way a little, that’s the giste of the article.

Your made up Chelsea commentary example is perfect, that’s how it is now. 70’s and 80’s matches commentated on by the likes of Peter Jones and Sinstadt simply didn’t contain that flannel. The commentaries are still available online, it’s goosebumps stuff.

What a snob!! Words fail me. Don't you realise 'white van / lorry man is helping keep the country going at the moment? Yet you refer to them in sneering tones, you are quick to call me out for 'racism' arent you and then you put that. Typical of the trendy leftie elite to look down their nose at the 'working classes'.

 

[Eeyore]

Could you elaborate please and how many DM readers do you know?

None.

But, two things.

Firstly, why would anyone read a paper that gave Katie Hopkins a column ?

Two, I have seen some of the vile comments on their stories and the chorus of thumbs up approval,

More than enough me thinks.

 

[Beach Seagull]

None.

But, two things.

Firstly, why would anyone read a paper that gave Katie Hopkins a column ?

Two, I have seen some of the vile comments on their stories and the chorus of thumbs up approval,

More than enough me thinks.

Basically nothing of substance. Like all the 'I hate the DM' people who never actually read it.

 

[Eeyore]

Basically nothing of substance. Like all the 'I hate the DM' people who never actually read it.

I would suggest that the comments section of the DM and Express tells us enough of the mentality of some of its readers. I also offer that the type of articles they have allowed in their paper suggests a continued reader is happy with such content.

I don't hate the DM readers. That is your inference. I do question as to why they would buy into it.

I don't feel the same way about the Daily Telegraph or indeed The Times. So this has nothing to do with political bias either.

 

[Beach Seagull]

]I would suggest that the comments section of the DM and Express tells us enough of the mentality of some of its readers. I also offer that the type of articles they have allowed in their paper suggests a continued reader is happy with such content.[/B]

I don't hate the DM readers. That is your inference. I do question as to why they would buy into it.

I don't feel the same way about the Daily Telegraph or indeed The Times. So this has nothing to do with political bias either.

Please can you provide some examples?

Where do I infer you hate DM readers? Buy into what?

 

[Beach Seagull]

I would suggest that the comments section of the DM and Express tells us enough of the mentality of some of its readers. I also offer that the type of articles they have allowed in their paper suggests a continued reader is happy with such content.

I don't hate the DM readers. That is your inference. I do question as to why they would buy into it.

I don't feel the same way about the Daily Telegraph or indeed The Times. So this has nothing to do with political bias either.

Do you have some actual specific examples you could post on here?

 

[Eeyore]

Stacks of them. Just pick a DM or DE article that talks about anything that is remotely connected to international affairs, refugees etc (You get my drift) and fill yer boots with hate.

Sorry that I don't feel like doing it. I would rather spend time at the moment posting pictures of cats and looking at beautiful landscapes.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Fair enough. I was being facetious and snooty. The thing that gets me, really, is the obsession with the top six and the clubs they support. I felt excluded only by that.

It's ok to be snooty. I caught a bit of that show once and almost kicked the shit out of the radio.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Basically nothing of substance. Like all the 'I hate the DM' people who never actually read it.

Please stop spouting total rubbish. You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Please can you provide some examples?

Where do I infer you hate DM readers? Buy into what?

Lord Rothermere, Hitler and fascism.
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/hitl...showed-he-has-learned-the-lessons-of-history/

Paul Dacre - High court judges are the enemy of the people
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...daily-mail-liberal-brexit-hating-media-speech




I keep telling myself not to bite at your bait, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Lord Rothermere, Hitler and fascism.
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/hitl...showed-he-has-learned-the-lessons-of-history/

Paul Dacre - High court judges are the enemy of the people
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...daily-mail-liberal-brexit-hating-media-speech




I keep telling myself not to bite at your bait, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

There's a couple of dirty rotters, as Steve Jones late of the Sex Pistols would have said

 

[Jim Van Winkle]

They had to pray before every game, meaning they sometimes felt their fate was in god's hands instead of their own.

Don’t go there the sky fairy brigade will be after you. You know he cares more about a player scoring a hatrick than someone dying of famine.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Please stop spouting total rubbish. You are embarrassing yourself.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Beach Seagull]

Lord Rothermere, Hitler and fascism.
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/hitl...showed-he-has-learned-the-lessons-of-history/

Paul Dacre - High court judges are the enemy of the people
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...daily-mail-liberal-brexit-hating-media-speech




I keep telling myself not to bite at your bait, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

Two articles is that it? Why is it 'bait'......it's not I'm just expressing an opinion.

 

[rippleman]

My first commentators on boxing were Carpenter and Guttridge. Loving the sport, I was aware of Andrews former life as a boxing guy, with his radio commentaries beamed back to the UK of Marciano’s world title fights eg against Britain’s Don Cockell.

Another silky voiced legend was the amazing Cliff Morgan of rugby union fame. His commentary of the Barbarians v All Blacks match at Cardiff Arms Park in 1973 is a thing of beauty.



Goosebumps every time .... from the rugby and the commentary.

That was brilliant. Thank you.

(Interesting to note two All BLack tackles in that clip one of which would certainly have been a red today and the other a yellow and still they scored the try.) Brightened my day.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Two articles is that it? Why is it 'bait'......it's not I'm just expressing an opinion.

Ah, the fake innocence of a troll.
The next step is becoming a victim.

See ya.

 

[Weststander]

That was brilliant. Thank you.

(Interesting to note two All BLack tackles in that clip one of which would certainly have been a red today and the other a yellow and still they scored the try.) Brightened my day.

The All Blacks would do anything to win.

Plus Rugby Union was very dirty before video reviews and other law clampdowns. In the 70’s and 80’s, just one example, random matches between the likes of South Wales Police, Gloucester, Neath, and most games could be pretty violent.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Ah, the fake innocence of a troll.
The next step is becoming a victim.

See ya.

I'm not a troll I'm expressing an opinion.The 'wrong' opinion.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'm expressing an opinion.

Over and over and over and over again.

What you are is boring. And a bellend.

This was a good thread till you turned up.