[Football] David Coote

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dejavuatbtn

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Much as I like old Klip-Klopp, it doesn’t surprise me that referees hold these feelings for people that abuse them. I don’t think verbal attacks on refs are dealt with anywhere near hard enough.
 


Coxovi

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You know, I'm not sure that is the case. Park and lower league refs are far more in the firing line. The abuse is much closer and therefore more personal. You don't have stewards and police to protect you (and often not even impartial linos) and you don't get a chauffeur driven car home or to a hotel after.
This is a very fair point, but tbf I was thinking of non-refs rather than lower leagues.

In any case the much higher salaries that have been since revealed may have made my post irrelevant.

Luckily however I never let facts get in the way of a good argument….
 


jcdenton08

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My mate is a local non-league ref at a decent level, he actively dreads going to certain clubs because of the manager, players and fans. It’s a cliche but are humans, and humans on the whole dislike bullies. Some teams are moan moan moan, so he goes into games with that very much in his mind.
 






Robinjakarta

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Coote isn’t the first referee to find himself in trouble over comments made. Bobby Madley was dismissed by the PGMOL for disparaging remarks about a disabled person.

There was also a rumour about him having sex with a dog, but this proved to be unfounded, IIRC.
Rumour-mongers barking up the wrong tree.
 


southstandandy

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Much as I like old Klip-Klopp, it doesn’t surprise me that referees hold these feelings for people that abuse them. I don’t think verbal attacks on refs are dealt with anywhere near hard enough.
Couldn't agree more.

Where else can an employee go and spend his entire time at work abused and threatened by the crowd, players (trying to con the refs) and managers barking in their ears all match. I'm surprised anyone is willing to do it.

I'm sure all refs have grounds, crowds and managers they dislike officiating at - the biggest sin was Coote being daft enough to have his views recorded, and he's an idiot to have let that happen.

Personally I have no problem if they don't like certain clubs or managers but they just need to keep their views to themselves or express them once retired.
 






Braggfan

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I really don't have a problem with this at all. He's perfectly entitled to his opinion. He didn't make the comments publicly, someone else has gone out of their way to make them public. If anything he's the victim in this situation. Yes he was naive to let someone film him, but again I don't think that's a crime and I definitely don't think he should be fired for it.
 


clapham_gull

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Someone used the power of the internet to expose the other person in the video.

Has it been confirmed he was responsible for "grassing".
Exactly.

As the referee appeared to be talking to "an audience", I suspect the video came from a Whatsapp group so it could have been anyone.
 
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hans kraay fan club

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Coote isn’t the first referee to find himself in trouble over comments made. Bobby Madley was dismissed by the PGMOL for disparaging remarks about a disabled person.

There was also a rumour about him having sex with a dog, but this proved to be unfounded, IIRC.
This isn't really waht happened, there. Bobby Madley was very harshly treated, for a much lesser error of judgement that Coote's.

He never 'made disparaging remarks about the disabled' at all. In a family / friends group chat, after he'd been fat-shamed in a newspaper, he shared that picture we've all seen - of the Down's kid in a Reading kit running at a school sports day - with a comment along the lines of 'even he would beat me'. Someone he'd had a row with, leaked it.

That is it. That is all he did, and his career was seriously derailed off the back of it.

When he got reported, he was first suspended, for 'Gross Misconduct' but the actual reasons were not made public. Some Leeds fans started the dog rumour - something they traditionally throw at Huddersfield fans (which Madley is).
 




hans kraay fan club

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This isn't really waht happened, there. Bobby Madley was very harshly treated, for a much lesser error of judgement that Coote's.

He never 'made disparaging remarks about the disabled' at all. In a family / friends group chat, after he'd been fat-shamed in a newspaper, he shared that picture we've all seen - of the Down's kid in a Reading kit running at a school sports day - with a comment along the lines of 'even he would beat me'. Someone he'd had a row with, leaked it.

That is it. That is all he did, and his career was seriously derailed off the back of it.

When he got reported, he was first suspended, for 'Gross Misconduct' but the actual reasons were not made public. Some Leeds fans started the dog rumour - something they traditionally throw at Huddersfield fans (which Madley is).
Some detail here:

 


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That is crazy, to put it in context in the NFL the starting ref gets $204,000 a year for 18 games. The PL should really ask itself where they choose to invest. I double checked- they make £70k a year including retainer, or about half. If they want the best, like with the players, perhaps they should pay more? Of course £70k is not a bad salary, but they are at the top of the pyramid and put up with far more sh@t than most of us…
I agree tbh, there is so much money in football they have enough to pay them very decently.

Otherwise there will always be questions of impartiality and it you told me refs were putting bets on the games I wouldn’t be shocked. They don’t even have to bet on their games but could bet on each others having already decided what they will do, number of yellows etc - nothing that will change the outcome of a game but enough to profit off.
 


amexer

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Easier to say as we won so no resentment ref cost us However I see often refs swayed by big teams City game was an example where I thought most of 50/50s went city way and seemed to get decisions everytime they appealed. Sure they are not cheating but gets in head when see big names DeBrone Foden Pep etc on field.
 




AK74

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He never 'made disparaging remarks about the disabled' at all.
Yes, he did:

Madley's sacking originated from a private video he sent when attending a parent and child race at his children's school.

He recorded a six- second Snapchat clip of someone with a walking impairment passing his car.

He captioned the clip ‘f**k me I have a chance of winning the parents race this year,’ which was later passed on to his employers by an unnamed person following an argument.



I've no dog in this fight, but if you play stupid games, be prepared to win equally stupid prizes. I'm referring to Coote and Madley, not you, HKFC.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Yes, he did:

Madley's sacking originated from a private video he sent when attending a parent and child race at his children's school.

He recorded a six- second Snapchat clip of someone with a walking impairment passing his car.

He captioned the clip ‘f**k me I have a chance of winning the parents race this year,’ which was later passed on to his employers by an unnamed person following an argument.
Fair enough. Thanks for the detail.

I'd still argue that most people can see that he is making a self-deprecating joke at his OWN expense there, rather than the disabled person in question.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Anyway. Back to David Coote being so wildly biased against Liverpool for the past however many years.

You'd have thought, if that was actually the case, that he'd have taken the easy win of sending off Fabinho for a horrible challenge on Evan Ferguson that resulted in our player being injured for several weeks and left the Brazilian standing there with an expression guiltier than a puppy who'd just been caught pooing on the lounge carpet.

But no, that didn't happen (and nor did his VAR chum offer him the second chance, even more astonishingly). It's almost like Liverpool, as with all Big Clubs, actually get more favourable decisions than bad ones in the grand scheme of things. But they just can't see that in Red Country, can they?
 


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That is crazy, to put it in context in the NFL the starting ref gets $204,000 a year for 18 games. The PL should really ask itself where they choose to invest. I double checked- they make £70k a year including retainer, or about half. If they want the best, like with the players, perhaps they should pay more? Of course £70k is not a bad salary, but they are at the top of the pyramid and put up with far more sh@t than most of us…
The FA and local FAs don't really give a shit about refs, which mean we are left with a lower standard coming through

If Coote is sacked I hope the refs strike, I don't think refs are perfect, but they deserve better than the treatment they get
 






Hugo Rune

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Alledged Video of him snorting white powder now.

Edit: At last summer's Euros.
I’ve seen the alleged video and the thing that sticks in one’s mind is the odd sound that is made from the snorting process.

It sound like someone trying the blow the trumpet for the first time. Or when someone lets go of a balloon before tying the knot.

Hopefully NSC can get to the bottom of this! I’m intrigued!
 


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