[Misc] Covid Jab Poll for those who have had the Jab

[RossyG]

...but no civil liberties got in the way so instead we will end up with some half baked scheme

Bloody civil liberties, eh?

 

[beorhthelm]

I had my first Pfizer vaccine last week just waiting for Mrs Blue3 to get hers and holibobs will be on the horizon once the Goverment sorts out vaccine passports, I don't know why they didn't up somthing into the vaccine that readable a chip or somthing, wish we had gone ahead with the ID card idea they could have just been updated, but no civil liberties got in the way so instead we will end up with some half baked scheme

they did, just secretly

but seriously, there's a vaccine certificate in the works.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

they did, just secretly

but seriously, there's a vaccine certificate in the works.

You'd think they could just give you a receipt really.

 

[beorhthelm]

You'd think they could just give you a receipt really.

needs system that covers those unable to have vaccine so not unfairly treated. and can easily be reproduced if lost.

 

[The Clamp]

Have 46 people here under sixty with no health issues really had the jab or are people just hitting the vote button without reading the question?

I’m assuming the latter for the most part.

Frontline workers. I've had mine (in my early forties) and I know quite a few people of similar age who have also had. There's quite a few of us on here.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

needs system that covers those unable to have vaccine so not unfairly treated. and can easily be reproduced if lost.

Surely in the short/medium term while this is an issue those unable to have the vaccine just have to deal with it (that's a very blunt way of putting it, sorry)? Ultimately you've either had the vaccine or you haven't, and if you haven't you can still be hospitalised and infect other people.

 

[beorhthelm]

Surely in the short/medium term while this is an issue those unable to have the vaccine just have to deal with it (that's a very blunt way of putting it, sorry)? Ultimately you've either had the vaccine or you haven't, and if you haven't you can still be hospitalised and infect other people.

because we dont live in a society were someone unable to have vaccine, say allergic reaction risk, children currently, should be prohibited from doing anything someone with vaccine does. we dont expect or require 100% uptake.

this is contrast to those that choose to not have a vaccine, who can do one.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

because we dont live in a society were someone unable to have vaccine, say allergic reaction risk, children currently, should be prohibited from doing anything someone with vaccine does. we dont expect or require 100% uptake.

I want to be clear, I'm not trying to be wilfully difficult or abstruse with this, I just don't quite follow your logic.

We don't require 100% uptake in the end, but the vaccination certificate's only of use during the interim period while vaccination rates are short of what we require to protect society as a whole. For most of that period the majority of people without the vaccine will be unable to have it because they've not been offered it, rather than because they have any particular condition. Those people are at the same risk from the virus as people who are unable to have a vaccine due to an allergic reaction.

During the period that the vaccine is being rolled out and the certificate has a purpose, I don't see the difference between people who are unable to have the vaccine for medical reasons, and people unable to have it because it's not been offered.

Once the vaccine has been offered to the larger majority of adults and it's pretty much only people who have medical reasons for not having the vaccine left, we won't need the certificate anyway.

this is contrast to those that choose to not have a vaccine, who can do one.

Well we agree there.

 

[Blue3]

they did, just secretly

but seriously, there's a vaccine certificate in the works.

Or a tattoo of a URU code at the same time as the vaccine

 

[RossyG]

Or a tattoo of a URU code at the same time as the vaccine

I want the vaccine but I don’t want to be chipped, tattooed, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Ok, I might want to be debriefed, but not the rest. And I don’t want a vaccine passport, either.

 

[beorhthelm]

During the period that the vaccine is being rolled out and the certificate has a purpose, I don't see the difference between people who are unable to have the vaccine for medical reasons, and people unable to have it because it's not been offered.

Once the vaccine has been offered to the larger majority of adults and it's pretty much only people who have medical reasons for not having the vaccine left, we won't need the certificate anyway.

sounds like good argument to not have a vaccine certificate.

the only real case for one is foreign travel, which is discretionary. restricting access to shops, pubs, resturants, cinemas, theatres, stadiums is discriminatory on a age/health lottery. they arent going to get back to business if some large group of their customers arent able to use them, its just going to be a mess until everyone is vaccinated.

 

[Joe Gatting's Dad]

Had the Oxford-Astra Zeneca jab four weeks ago via my GP who rang me up with an appointment - absolutely no side effects whatsoever

 

[Wozza]

Have 46 people here under sixty with no health issues really had the jab or are people just hitting the vote button without reading the question?

I’m assuming the latter for the most part.

Approx 75% of NSC users are under 60 which obviously distorts the figure.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I want the vaccine but I don’t want to be chipped, tattooed, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Ok, I might want to be debriefed, but not the rest. And I don’t want a vaccine passport, either.

Why not? If you went to quite a few hot countries you would need a yellow fever certificate for travel.
As for being filed, it's online in my EMIS patient record at my GP, even though I had the jab at the Racecourse in Brighton.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You'd think they could just give you a receipt really.

They do, with the date, type and batch number.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Lateral flow test twice a week for Mrs AR and myself, very easy no hassle

 

[RossyG]

Why not? If you went to quite a few hot countries you would need a yellow fever certificate for travel.
As for being filed, it's online in my EMIS patient record at my GP, even though I had the jab at the Racecourse in Brighton.

But a vaccine passport to go into a pub or the Amex? No thanks. And I don't want people to be made second-class because they can't have or don't want the vaccine. If mine works then I don't care what they do.

 

[Blue3]

I want the vaccine but I don’t want to be chipped, tattooed, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Ok, I might want to be debriefed, but not the rest. And I don’t want a vaccine passport, either.

genuinely intrested why?

 

[RossyG]

genuinely intrested why?

I don't want a chip or a tattoo. I'm not a farm animal and I'm not the property of this or any other government.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

They do, with the date, type and batch number.

Well if anybody really wants to know if you've been vaccinated you should be able to present that to them. I don't see any need for anything more complicated or involved.

This is all entirely academic for me anyway. As a 28 year old with no particular health concerns I don't expect to be vaccinated until most restrictions have been lifted anyway