- May 8, 2018
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[News] Corrosive substance attack
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It’s a definite issue and should be allowed to be discussed
Could be poverty related in a lot of cases
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Yep potentially for sure - the knock on of repression from years gone by. Poorer communities etc and desperation. There has to be reasons behind it.
I still don’t believe there’s such a thing as ‘white privilege’ though, having said those possibilities. That’s way too general a thing and a horrible, lazy grouping phrase imo!
Motogull
Todd Warrior
- Sep 16, 2005
- 10,481
Too broad a question.
If someone committed this act upon a loved one of mine, then yeah no problem. This scumbag has no useful role in society.
I don't agree with the death penalty in general, but when it comes to people who do acid attacks I'm near enough willing to make an exception.
He dissolved the bodies in acid after killing them.
Still horrible obviously.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,201
It is a issue that is allowed to be discussed. The problem here is that nothing in zebedee's post suggested that he was talking about %. In fact his first quip of 'it wasn't going to be John smith' strongly suggested that he believes that the vast majority of these types of attacks were commited by non whites. Then is somewhat ambiguous comment about 'certain communities' seemed to compound this position.
My point is that Zebedee didn't really make any attempt to discuss the issue or provide any data to back up a clearly explained point. You and sheebo have done so and it really begs the question as to why these % are higher?
It is also notable that he hasn't come back to clarify his thoughts on this issue. Although perhaps he is thread banned so cannot.
I struggle with the idea that these cultural groups are inherently more disposed to criminal activities so perhaps their are other factors influencing these behaviours. Poverty perhaps, low income, systemic racism?
Perhaps this isn't the thread for this discussion though.
Weststander
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Sadly typical violence against women and kids. Especially where the woman moves on. As old as the hills.
Too much micro analysis above imho about race, poverty etc. Middle class white men also murder/damage their ex partners.
Too much micro analysis above imho about race, poverty etc. Middle class white men also murder/damage their ex partners.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,201
Why is there too much analysis? What is the down side?
I would have thought that analysing the stats would throw up some significant factors on the reason behind some crimes. Reducing these factors could then reduce crime, surely what everyone would like?
Seagull58
In the Algarve
I suspect it's ex-wife and kids "honour" attack.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Yes I think it’s a healthy debate if you’re open minded and not racist… but appreciate it may not be the time and place when there are some poor victims and their families so apologise @Weststander if the discussion seemed inappropriate.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
He used acid to dispose of the bodies, not to attack or kill.
Weststander
Well-known member
I wasn’t offended by the other disussions.
A personal view, I just think many males treat women and ex partners as punchbags.
Fred Oliver - Legend
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have you seen the state of his face?!
Clapham attack suspect Abdul Shokoor Ezedi convicted of sex offence in 2018
A new image shows Abdul Shokoor Ezedi with facial injuries, as it is revealed he was granted asylum in 2021 or 2022.
www.bbc.co.uk
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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The scary thing is that he's the one who threw the acid... Not the women who had it thrown on them.have you seen the state of his face?!
Clapham attack suspect Abdul Shokoor Ezedi convicted of sex offence in 2018
A new image shows Abdul Shokoor Ezedi with facial injuries, as it is revealed he was granted asylum in 2021 or 2022.www.bbc.co.uk
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
This is walking distance from me, just as was the murder of Sarah Everard.
That's a few minutes walk from there.
Why on earth anyone is discussing the race of the attacker is completely beyond me. Where were the stats on Met Police Officers ?
Bonkers.
That's a few minutes walk from there.
Why on earth anyone is discussing the race of the attacker is completely beyond me. Where were the stats on Met Police Officers ?
Bonkers.
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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The suspect in an alkali attack in south London was convicted of a sex offence in 2018 and was later granted asylum.
He was convicted of "sexual assault/exposure" in 2018, before being granted asylum in 2021 or 2022.
Ezedi arrived in the UK by lorry in 2016.
He was convicted of "sexual assault/exposure" in 2018, before being granted asylum in 2021 or 2022.
Ezedi arrived in the UK by lorry in 2016.
- Jan 3, 2012
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In terms of the broadness of the situation, I wouldn’t be prepared to do it whatever the circumstances.
fully appreciate that others might/will feel differently.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
The stats on Met Police Officers are pretty bad, aren't they? Convictions for murder, rape, coercive behaviour. Sackings for racism etc.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Two asylum applications rejected before asylum was granted on the third application.