Coppell or McGhee?

[ditchy]

I will no doubt be flamed for saying this but I think it is becoming more obvious how much better a manager Coppell was then McGhee.

You only have to look on the Leon Knight thread to see that many feel Coppell managed to get the best out of Knight in a way McGhee has not yet managed.

He had us playing attractive football and had the contacts to get quality players into the club.

McGhee strikes me as being a lucky manager and he does well at working with what he has. It is clear he has helped Hinsh and Virgo come on in leaps and bounds but it does not seem he is capable of bringing in players to take us that step further.

I also worry about his laid back attitude in public. "two more wins should do it" "four draws will do it" "one win will do it".

McGhee has done a good job but I cant help feeling we really missed out when Coppell went.

Another attn seeking thread alert !!

 

[Easy 10]

Different divisions, different players, different circumstances. You can never really make a straightforward comparison to categorically state who is the better manager.

I honestly don't think there was much more Coppell could have done to have kept us up that season - the fact that we took it to the very final game of the season before our relegation was confirmed was (almost) an achievement in itself, considering the mess he picked up in October. What I DO know was that I was desperate for us to keep hold of Coppell at the time when Reading came sniffing around, and I was absolutely GUTTED when he left. He's a good experienced manager who players respect, and I felt it was a massive loss to us when he left.

McGhee is a different character, but he has a similar style the way he quietly goes about his job, and seems to command the respect of the players. We're lucky to have a manager of McGhee's calibre at this club given our circumstances. He got us promoted on a shoestring, and he's overseen (what I think) has been a thrilling season at this level, and we're still in with a more than decent chance of staying up, despite the crippling circumstances at the club.

They're BOTH good managers in their own way if you ask me. I can't put one above the other.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Re: Re: Coppell or McGhee?

Another attn seeking thread alert !!

What the f*** are you on about?

By your workings it would seem that any thead started on ANY topic is somehow attention seeking.

Grow up and change the record. Everybody else seems to be able to enter into a reasonable debate, why cant you?

 

[Saint Lennard]

Calm down richie and step away from your handbag!

 

[Albion Dan]

You reap what you sow Richie. So many shit posts that people struggle to take anything you say seriously. And you cant blame them.

Also the only footy related threads you post are having a pop at the football side of the club, especially if their initials are MM.

DO you not find it all slightly counter productive at this point in the season when we really need to get behind the manager and team?

For the record Coppell did f*** all except get us relegated. How do you work out hes better because of that?

 

[Uncle Buck]

DO you not find it all slightly counter productive at this point in the season when we really need to get behind the manager and team?

What harm is there putting an opinion that might not fall into the masses everything is OK lets not question the clubs view? Better than standing behind the dugout against West Ham calling McGhee a Sweaty C U N T and then throwing a supermarket trolley at McCammon, surely?

For the record Ritchie might post a fair amount of shit, but most of your posts seem to be attacking people for saying something that you do not like rather than disagreeing with them.

 

[Icy Gull]

We were offered Owusu - Abeyie on loan so must have been able to afford him who is currently in a similar position in Arsenal's reserves as Sidwell was at the time.

My understanding of that deal was that we HAD to play him every game and in the position Arsenal wanted us to play him, in other words they were dictating what we did with him. McGhee decided he was manager of Brighton not an appendage of Arsenal's reserve team. Was that wrong then?

McGhee is also entertaining to listen to, Coppell is the Leonard Cohen of football managers in that you want to top yourself after listening to him

 

[ditchy]

Re: Re: Re: Coppell or McGhee?

What the f*** are you on about?

By your workings it would seem that any thead started on ANY topic is somehow attention seeking.

Grow up and change the record. Everybody else seems to be able to enter into a reasonable debate, why cant you?

Have alook around Ritchie .. its not just me ... Try posting something diff for a change ..

 

[silky1]

My understanding of that deal was that we HAD to play him every game and in the position Arsenal wanted us to play him, in other words they were dictating what we did with him.

If true, that would be a most bizarre situtation to get in. It really would just go to show what a gulf there now is in football, that a club only one division above us feel they could start dictating our team selection.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Coppell or McGhee?

Have alook around Ritchie .. its not just me ... Try posting something diff for a change ..

Cracking response. So you and TWO others have nothing constructive to add so have a pop at me instead and that suddenly makes a sensible thread attention seeking.

Fine.

You MUST be right.

 

[Stinky Kat]

My understanding of that deal was that we HAD to play him every game and in the position Arsenal wanted us to play him, in other words they were dictating what we did with him. McGhee decided he was manager of Brighton not an appendage of Arsenal's reserve team. Was that wrong then?

McGhee is also entertaining to listen to, Coppell is the Leonard Cohen of football managers in that you want to top yourself after listening to him

God i find some of leonard chen's stuff uplifting.

 

[Albion Dan]

For the record Ritchie might post a fair amount of shit, but most of your posts seem to be attacking people for saying something that you do not like rather than disagreeing with them.

I dont see where I am attacking Richie in my post just explaining the situation.

I do attack certain people who constantly slag off the same players post after post after post. Once people know your opinion what does it achieve? The MacCammon saga was a joke. By all means post it once or twice, but come on.... All I can see is that it is counter productive, especially to any players who might have the misfortune to read it.

It is also funny how there are about 3 or 4 of you who seem to think you are getting picked on. You all also seem to share the same opinion. If you want to post that opinion so often and with such vitriol you have to expect it back when the majority clearly disagree with you. But then much of it IS attention seeking imo.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I dont see where I am attacking Richie in my post just explaining the situation.

I do attack certain people who constantly slag off the same people post after post after post. Once peole know your opinion what does it achieve? By all means post it once or twice, but come on.... All I can see it that it is counter productive, especially to any players who might have the misfortune to read it.

Our players can read?

 

[Uncle Buck]

I dont see where I am attacking Richie in my post just explaining the situation.

I do attack certain people who constantly slag off the same people post after post after post. Once peole know your opinion what does it achieve? By all means post it once or twice, but come on.... All I can see it that it is counter productive, especially to any players who might have the misfortune to read it.

If they come on here, then they have to expect that some criticism maybe voiced.

So we should all be nice and happy clappy regarding the team even on here, just in case we of the poor sensitive flowers that plays for us reads it, as it might mean he has to hug big ted all night and will have a bad game just to show us that we should not be nasty to him?

 

[enigma]

Bottom line is, Richies entitled to his opinion you mugs, and this isnt an attention seeking thread.

I think Coppell is probably a better manager than McGhee overall, but in terms of what Coppell did for us its difficult to assess given he inherited a bad situation and left before his work could be completed. I do however think he was on the way to success and he got a lot out of Leon as well.

McGhee has done more for the club due to longer time spent here, but Coppell may well have achieved more had he stayed. We will never know.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

For the record Coppell did f*** all except get us relegated. How do you work out hes better because of that?

Gave us a sporting chance of staying updespite losing 12 in a row.

Signed Leon Knight.

Left us top of the league.

Entertained the fans with attacking football.

 

[enigma]

Bottom line is, Richies entitled to his opinion you mugs, and this isnt an attention seeking thread.

I think Coppell is probably a better manager than McGhee overall, but in terms of what Coppell did for us its difficult to assess given he inherited a bad situation and left before his work could be completed. I do however think he was on the way to success and he got a lot out of Leon as well.

McGhee has done more for the club due to longer time spent here, but Coppell may well have achieved more had he stayed. We will never know.

 

[enigma]

Bottom line is, Richies entitled to his opinion you mugs, and this isnt an attention seeking thread.

I think Coppell is probably a better manager than McGhee overall, but in terms of what Coppell did for us its difficult to assess given he inherited a bad situation and left before his work could be completed. I do however think he was on the way to success and he got a lot out of Leon as well.

McGhee has done more for the club due to longer time spent here, but Coppell may well have achieved more had he stayed. We will never know.

 

[Icy Gull]

Entertained the fans with attacking football.

I'm not having that, the football we played in what is now league one, with the exception of Rushden away and possibly Shef Weds and QPR home under Coppell was dire. we rode our luck and how we ended up 6 points clear is a mystery. That sounds very churlish but at the time we were all moaning about how shit the division was and how we were lucky to be be so far ahead.

Coppell's team played route one football which was effective but it was not entertaining imo.

 

[Brixtaan]

Sorry Ritchie but your way off the mark, much more solid clever stuff from MM on less resources.We shouldn't be where we are and thats not his fault.

I'm utterly convinced he'll do even better next season if we stay up,esp with a 12th man on the pitch called Falmer.