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bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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You may be right on the US.

Hackney is not unique, Newham, Brent both with the highest concentration of diversity possess an equally balanced population.

Whitechaple per se is relatively small area, intermixed with some of the world's wealthiest citizens as well as a range of other populations.

There is no where in London off the beaten I would fear to tread but is that the same with downtown Washington, Detroit and similar cities?

Hmmm, well I would give Harlesden or Edmonton a wide birth for a start. There are large concentrations of Hispanics and Afro Americans in some cities yes but that's a lot to do with the fact that the US has a much larger population of same. I remember going up to Oldham a few seasons ago and being warned by local whites to watch out for the Asians although I walked through an Asian area without any problem.

The real problem with the US is that their obsession with paying higher taxes means that they have a virtually non existent welfare state and thus many people have to commit crime just to survive, a fact that seems to be overlooked by many Americans. They wouldn't have the highest percentage per capita of citizens in jail in the world if they weren't so keen to avoid taxation.
 




Hmmm, well I would give Harlesden or Edmonton a wide birth for a start. There are large concentrations of Hispanics and Afro Americans in some cities yes but that's a lot to do with the fact that the US has a much larger population of same. I remember going up to Oldham a few seasons ago and being warned by local whites to watch out for the Asians although I walked through an Asian area without any problem.

The real problem with the US is that their obsession with paying higher taxes means that they have a virtually non existent welfare state and thus many people have to commit crime just to survive, a fact that seems to be overlooked by many Americans. They wouldn't have the highest percentage per capita of citizens in jail in the world if they weren't so keen to avoid taxation.

I suppose that's the pointsince I have worked in Edmonton and all along the A10 rough areas, I know them - not neccessarily feeling totally safe.

Whilst in the USA I am fed news, films, stats telling me i wouldn't last a second!!
 






Reagan was one month shy of 70 when he was elected and almost 78 when he left office.

I hope Obama wins, the McCain/Palin ticket is a scary one on so many levels.

I feel the same about Obama. He is scary on so many levels too, most of which are not reported by the mainstream media over here in the U.S. - which is sad.

McCain/Palin is not an ideal ticket - far from it, but when you actually look into Obama's past, his ideals and policies, it is very scary.
 








Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
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i think its sad that obama has lost so many votes because people seem to think he's from the middle east, when really he orginates from africa :/
 




i think its sad that obama has lost so many votes because people seem to think he's from the middle east, when really he orginates from africa :/
That is something that is dragged up too. Some people are claiming he is a Muslim, then someone (Colin Powell actually) claimed Obama has always been a Christian.

Well, the truth is that he WAS a Muslim but is now a Christian. Not a big deal really.
 








Starry

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Oct 10, 2004
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I feel the same about Obama. He is scary on so many levels too, most of which are not reported by the mainstream media over here in the U.S. - which is sad.

McCain/Palin is not an ideal ticket - far from it, but when you actually look into Obama's past, his ideals and policies, it is very scary.

Oh, I am not an Obama fan, far from it in fact. What scares you about him?

McCain/Palin just give me bigger heebie jeebies which is a shame because I actually want to like McCain.
 


Well, the truth is that he WAS a Muslim but is now a Christian. Not a big deal really.

Although I agree it's not a big deal (although it certainly appears to be for quite a few people), I'd be interested to see the evidence that he was a muslim. I thought his parents were atheists (albeit lapsed from muslim (father) and methodist (mother) backgrounds), and that he only became religious as an adult - and then as a christian.
 






Stumpy Tim

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That wasnt what i said and you know it,that is what you and others of a similar political persuasion like to imply, that anyone white who lives in a southern state is voting for mcccain purely because they are a cross burning redneck.

Hang on. You said Powell (Republican) is backing Obama (Democrat) because they're both black. So what's the difference between Lieberman (Democrat) backing McCain (Republican) because they're both white.

The difference is that it doesn't fit your narrow view of the world. Because you're clearly a TIT
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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No, im just taking it as read, the same way you, and numerous other people on here do , that white people only vote for mcccain because he is white, why else would he change allegiance from republican to democrat ?

Read his statement. It was crystal clear why he decided to go with Obama. He gave a range of reasons.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Oh, I am not an Obama fan, far from it in fact. What scares you about him?

McCain/Palin just give me bigger heebie jeebies which is a shame because I actually want to like McCain.

1) His ties to self-confessed domestic terrorist William Ayers, which Obama has lied about and tried to cover up.

2) His links to the left-wing group ACORN, which is being investigated for voter fraud in 12 states, and has been known for this for years. He lied about this too. It is entirely possible their efforts will make the election pointless.

3) Attempts by the Obama campaign to basically silence anybody who doesn't agree with them. Doesn't sound much like free speech to me. Case in point (amongst many) is the way the Obama team is currently trying to smear "Joe the plumber", an ordinary guy who hit the headlines by daring to ask Mr Obama about his tax plans at a recent event.

4) His extremely liberal and left-wing voting record whilst in office.

5) He is the second-highest recipient of money from government-backed mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, despite going about "Change", which is his main platform.

These are just things off the top of my head. I am sure I can think of more. And if you wish me to go into detail about of these, I will :)
 




Herr Tubthumper

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1) His ties to self-confessed domestic terrorist William Ayers, which Obama has lied about and tried to cover up.

2) His links to the left-wing group ACORN, which is being investigated for voter fraud in 12 states, and has been known for this for years. He lied about this too. It is entirely possible their efforts will make the election pointless.

3) Attempts by the Obama campaign to basically silence anybody who doesn't agree with them. Doesn't sound much like free speech to me. Case in point (amongst many) is the way the Obama team is currently trying to smear "Joe the plumber", an ordinary guy who hit the headlines by daring to ask Mr Obama about his tax plans at a recent event.

4) His extremely liberal and left-wing voting record whilst in office.

5) He is the second-highest recipient of money from government-backed mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, despite going about "Change", which is his main platform.

These are just things off the top of my head. I am sure I can think of more. And if you wish me to go into detail about of these, I will :)

Yawn yawn yawn
 




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