withdeanwombat
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"Club Statement" - Loads of Bollocks
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bhaexpress
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Good point well made, it never ceases to amaze me the way some people think they speak for the majority when all they're really doing is showing how ignorant they are.
Where has someone done that?
I see a lot of people clearly stating their individual opinion and then I see people describing NSC as some sort of entity with stuff like "NSC is....". It's the latter, those grouping a large population of disparate souls together, that are putting words into the mouths of others.
cjd
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Oh my days what a load of old bollocks this all is. And yes, Bozza, this is a demonstration of the idiocy this message board is able to produce.
Let's be clear about this Hammond WAS pushed out. There's absolutely no doubt about it. How this is any way controversial though I don't know. It seems like a decision any person with half a brain cell would have made.
So the scenario is this: the player wanted a better contract that the club didn't feel they were able to offer. He refused to sign the one that they did offer and so the club were faced with three possible actions:
1. Offer Hammond a better contract and hope he signs it - financially you don't want to do this and there's still no guarantee that he'll sign it. Only the player is guaranteed a win in this situation. The club aren't because obviously they don't think he's worth it.
2. Offer him nothing more and hope he signs - if he doesn't he goes for free - risky, of course. It's fair to say that the overwhelmingly likely outcome is that the player wins by signing elsewhere, the club get NOTHING.
3. Sell him - well it's the only thing you can do to guarantee that the club comes out of this well. £250,000 to a club like us is a massive amount of money.
So come on then would-be Charimans, what would you do. Hmmmm?
What the club, and particularly the Chariman, has done is to put the football club first. From what I can remember this has not always been the case. If people want a Chairman that takes more risks and gambles on the future of the club, then fine - come out and say that.
On the other side of the argument seems to be the players and agents who think that the club are treating them poorly, presumably by trying to make them sign contracts and take sensible pay rises. That they have some posters on this board supporting their viewpoint would be hilarious if it weren't so stangely depressing. Anyway - I've said my piece - you can carry on with the luncacy now.
Let's be clear about this Hammond WAS pushed out. There's absolutely no doubt about it. How this is any way controversial though I don't know. It seems like a decision any person with half a brain cell would have made.
So the scenario is this: the player wanted a better contract that the club didn't feel they were able to offer. He refused to sign the one that they did offer and so the club were faced with three possible actions:
1. Offer Hammond a better contract and hope he signs it - financially you don't want to do this and there's still no guarantee that he'll sign it. Only the player is guaranteed a win in this situation. The club aren't because obviously they don't think he's worth it.
2. Offer him nothing more and hope he signs - if he doesn't he goes for free - risky, of course. It's fair to say that the overwhelmingly likely outcome is that the player wins by signing elsewhere, the club get NOTHING.
3. Sell him - well it's the only thing you can do to guarantee that the club comes out of this well. £250,000 to a club like us is a massive amount of money.
So come on then would-be Charimans, what would you do. Hmmmm?
What the club, and particularly the Chariman, has done is to put the football club first. From what I can remember this has not always been the case. If people want a Chairman that takes more risks and gambles on the future of the club, then fine - come out and say that.
On the other side of the argument seems to be the players and agents who think that the club are treating them poorly, presumably by trying to make them sign contracts and take sensible pay rises. That they have some posters on this board supporting their viewpoint would be hilarious if it weren't so stangely depressing. Anyway - I've said my piece - you can carry on with the luncacy now.
The majority of the contributors to this thread are backing the board/club/Dick Knight.
In what way is this idiocy? It seems to align with your view as well.
Yes, the majority are backing the club, but those not doing so aren't just one or two in number. And on this issue, there's nothing to really argue about. A sensible discussion and criticism of the board would be great, but a thread on how terrible it is we forced out a player on the verge of screwing us is absurd. I thought the only people in favour of player-power were players and agents. Seems I was wrong.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
DK and the board made the right decision. No individual player is bigger than the club. The club cannot be held to ransom by players or their agents.
philgull25
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the statement seems fair enough to me. the swipe at hammond ay the end was slightly unnessicary though.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Are you the same 'Debbie, Brighton' who consistantly posts vitriolic rants at Dick Knight on the Argus website?
Do you have a personal reason for this?
I'm curious.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
Is she from the same gene pool as Ernest ?
Theatre of Trees
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Pretty much what I think. I'd also add that the transfer deadline meant there was no longer room for fine point negotiations, you put up or go.
Djmiles
Barndoor Holroyd
I priced a job two weeks ago but the customer said I was a little too expensive but would I be prepared to come down a little on the quote. I said that I could not really budge on that price as it was already quite competetive in my opinion.
She is getting the job done now by another carpenter who may or may not be similar to me.................and I am working elsewhere.
Nothing sinister going on here. Knight`s played it right. Hammond is too expensive so we look elsewhere and get a nice sum for him.
She is getting the job done now by another carpenter who may or may not be similar to me.................and I am working elsewhere.
Nothing sinister going on here. Knight`s played it right. Hammond is too expensive so we look elsewhere and get a nice sum for him.
I called NSC "an embarrassment" at the moment and I still stand by that if that'd what you're referring to. I'm embarrassed that there are a small few who wish to spill the beans for whatever personal reasons they have, by using an alias on a fans forum. Whatever reason can there be for an employee or insider to wish to do this is an embarrassment to our club and our fans and us (NSC). Its spite at its lowest form posted on here for all to laugh at.
Now if they wished to stand up and say - I am Mr Such and Such or So and So and the reason I'd like to talk about these issues is such...then I'd hold a completely different view. But it seems these few who are doing this haven't the balls or the bravery.
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Scotty Mac
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- Jul 13, 2003
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IF - and it is a very BIG if - hammond asked to sign the contract when murray had signed due to being impressed with our new-found ambition, and knight told him that he was to leave even IF we wanted to sign - then id say that is a pretty big case of forcing him out
i guess we will never know. the club have given their account of what happened, hammond has given his account and the rest is speculation. there is no right or wrong in it - it ultimately comes down to who you believe at the end of the day
i guess we will never know. the club have given their account of what happened, hammond has given his account and the rest is speculation. there is no right or wrong in it - it ultimately comes down to who you believe at the end of the day
BALDISBEAUTIFUL
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Well said Lord Bracknell. There are always 2 sides to a story, and as fans how are we to know the difference between truth and rumour?
Only time will tell if we will miss DH, but for sure we do do need to stengthen our midfield. Perhaps one day we will get that elusive creative player. Seagulls
Only time will tell if we will miss DH, but for sure we do do need to stengthen our midfield. Perhaps one day we will get that elusive creative player. Seagulls
I still can't see how you can tar NSC, a forum with c6000 members, of various levels of activity, as an embarrassment based on the actions of a small minority. Especially when an equally 'vocal' majority eloquently debate an alternative view of events.
Pray tell, what should NSC do to cease being an embarrassment?