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Flounce

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I think the opposite.

The only players we've sold have wanted out and made it clear they want out. What would you recommend we do at that point? Keep a sulky player and watch his form/value plummet or maximise the fee?

We basically locked Moises away during a January window (after "his" instagram post) to stop him going to Arsenal.

Then sold him reluctantly for a British record 115m in the summer.

I'm sure if he (and the rest of them) wanted to stay then we wouldn't have sold, we didn't "need" the money.
We have had a manager who effectively said a couple of players were too good for Brighton and constantly saying all players are for sale if the offer is right is hardly likely to make anyone want to stay though. Maybe we shouldn’t be so transparent that we are a club that has no problem with players being in the shop window from the moment they arrive and suggest we’d like them to stay and make us a BIG club would slow the exodus down. Instead we make a point of always saying we have replacements in place, would you be keen to stay in a job with an attitude like that?

Sorry, I just find it depressing but accept it’s got us where we are, have we reached our ceiling of expectation? Making money being the motivation now rather than becoming a top club and trying to improve even further?
 




Flounce

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WTF did that come from ? Biss, White, Trossard, Cucurella, Caecido, Sanchez, I don't believe we have been 'happy' to move any of them on, but when they've been offered three times the salary on a longer contract and Champions League football, what do you suggest we do. Try and bankrupt the club for a season of glory :shrug:
I would love to know how hard we tried to convince any of them to stay rather than saying “offer more” and they’re yours :smile:

I suggest our model falls down a little because of it. Other clubs come nowhere close to us in offloading their best players just as they become absolute quality. They fight to keep them, it appears we don’t, we just want more money for them.
 






WATFORD zero

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I would love to know how hard we tried to convince any of them to stay rather than saying “offer more” and they’re yours :smile:

Maybe we should turn down all offers and make the players play out a couple more seasons of their contract despite what the player wants and what the offer is.

That'll go down a treat when we start negotiating the recruitment of our next round of wunderkids from all over the world :smile:
 




Flounce

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Maybe we should turn down all offers and make the players play out a couple more seasons of their contract despite what the player wants and what the offer is.

That'll go down a treat when we start negotiating the recruitment of our next round of wunderkids from all over the world :smile:
I wonder how other smaller clubs manage to hang onto most of their best players beyond their breakout year.

Higher wages? Maybe but if we want to progress further we are going to have to go down that route imo, that’ll convince a few to stay.

Anyway, whatever the reasons I feel depressed about how quick the turnover of our best players is in comparison to every other up and coming PL club :shrug:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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I wonder how other smaller clubs manage to hang onto most of their best players beyond their breakout year.

Higher wages? Maybe but if we want to progress further we are going to have to go down that route imo, that’ll convince a few to stay.

Anyway, whatever the reasons I feel depressed about how quick the turnover of our best players is in comparison to every other up and coming PL club :shrug:
I guess in the end the football model is at odds with business model and we just have to suck it up ☹️
 


tstanbur

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We have had a manager who effectively said a couple of players were too good for Brighton and constantly saying all players are for sale if the offer is right is hardly likely to make anyone want to stay though. Maybe we shouldn’t be so transparent that we are a club that has no problem with players being in the shop window from the moment they arrive and suggest we’d like them to stay and make us a BIG club would slow the exodus down. Instead we make a point of always saying we have replacements in place, would you be keen to stay in a job with an attitude like that?

Sorry, I just find it depressing but accept it’s got us where we are, have we reached our ceiling of expectation? Making money being the motivation now rather than becoming a top club and trying to improve even further?
I honestly don't think making money is the motivation at all.

It is a nice bonus to developing players to such a high level which in turn makes the team better - both having them in such good form and then selling for huge profits to rinse and repeat.

Our ceiling is moving up and up over time.

Hopefully at some stage we will become a "big" club and then our players at the time will hang around longer.

Until then, the best players want to play for the best clubs and that is inevitable.
 






Flounce

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I honestly don't think making money is the motivation at all.

It is a nice bonus to developing players to such a high level which in turn makes the team better - both having them in such good form and then selling for huge profits to rinse and repeat.

Our ceiling is moving up and up over time.

Hopefully at some stage we will become a "big" club and then our players at the time will hang around longer.

Until then, the best players want to play for the best clubs and that is inevitable.
Is the team better now though than it was last season and the one before? Most of us expect a few of our best players to move on in the summer again too.
 


WATFORD zero

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I wonder how other smaller clubs manage to hang onto most of their best players beyond their breakout year.

Higher wages? Maybe but if we want to progress further we are going to have to go down that route imo, that’ll convince a few to stay.

Anyway, whatever the reasons I feel depressed about how quick the turnover of our best players is in comparison to every other up and coming PL club :shrug:

See what happens to Bournemouth and Forest this summer if they continue like this until the end of the season.

Palace seem to hang onto most of their players :wink:
 








Justice

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We have had a manager who effectively said a couple of players were too good for Brighton and constantly saying all players are for sale if the offer is right is hardly likely to make anyone want to stay though. Maybe we shouldn’t be so transparent that we are a club that has no problem with players being in the shop window from the moment they arrive and suggest we’d like them to stay and make us a BIG club would slow the exodus down. Instead we make a point of always saying we have replacements in place, would you be keen to stay in a job with an attitude like that?

Sorry, I just find it depressing but accept it’s got us where we are, have we reached our ceiling of expectation? Making money being the motivation now rather than becoming a top club and trying to improve even further?
:tears:
 






tstanbur

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Brentford and Fulham too, they haven’t been raped like us have they?
Out of those teams, which players have been consistently of the level/profile of our players that were sold?

Not just for a few months of a single season.

Mbeumo springs to mind, not many others.
 


Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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Was he a black body builder with a dead sister?
And ginger, no? Someone said at the time “I don’t remember seeing too many ginger Mike Tyson lookalikes at Withdean recently”.
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Villa aren’t safe from being raided we’ve no hope. We are a stepping stone club simples.
No wonder RDZ left. He saw clearly that we're not trying very hard to build anything on the pitch. We're little more than a shop window for players just passing through en route to A Big Club
 


DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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WTF did that come from ? Biss, White, Trossard, Cucurella, Caecido, Sanchez, I don't believe we have been 'happy' to move any of them on, but when they've been offered three times the salary on a longer contract and Champions League football, what do you suggest we do. Try and bankrupt the club for a season of glory :shrug:
Also if we dig our heels in too hard about players leaving, the next generation of Caicedo , MacAllister won’t come to Brighton.

I think we get it spot on, one of the reasons we have a reputation for being such a well-run club.
 


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