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Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Titanic said:
What skills or resources do parents (or more likely a parent) from Whitehawk have to deal with this sort of delinquency ?

They're not all retards divorced from modern life like some "Escape from New York" film. Proper parenting from when the child is born with the same resources as every other parent.

:angry:
 




Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
39,929
West Sussex
Buzzer said:
Proper parenting from when the child is born with the same resources as every other parent.

How is your average Wayne or Waynetta going to manage' proper parenting' ??
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,202
Buzzer said:
with the same resources as every other parent.
? QED

edit: oi, Titanic, wish me Happy Birthday or I'll turn delinquent...
 
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Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Titanic said:
How is your average Wayne or Waynetta going to manage' proper parenting' ??

They ain't retards and they ain't clueless. If you're gonna have a child then accept the responsibility that goes with it. Don't chuck that one over to the state.
 


Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
13,580
London
Titanic said:
How is your average Wayne or Waynetta going to manage' proper parenting' ??

Know what you mean, it takes a really high level of intelligence to realise playing chicken with a bus is a stupid thing to do. It's not their fault, bless 'em.
 
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Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
13,580
London
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Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Buzzer said:
They ain't retards and they ain't clueless. If you're gonna have a child then accept the responsibility that goes with it. Don't chuck that one over to the state.

Actually some people don't know how to connect and raise their own children. My mates sister who does social work said that some people, usually young couples from poorer areas actually have to have guidance lessons in how to care for and love their own children because they just don't have the social and adult skills to deal with it.
 


Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
13,580
London
Les Biehn said:
Actually some people don't know how to connect and raise their own children. My mates sister who does social work said that some people, usually young couples from poorer areas actually have to have guidance lessons in how to care for and love their own children because they just don't have the social and adult skills to deal with it.

In which case, they shouldn't have them in the first place then.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Les Biehn said:
Actually some people don't know how to connect and raise their own children. My mates sister who does social work said that some people, usually young couples from poorer areas actually have to have guidance lessons in how to care for and love their own children because they just don't have the social and adult skills to deal with it.

and those people are getting help via social workers, the rest are deemed able to raise kids like every other parent.

Just because you live in Whitehawk or some other deprived area does not absolve you from your parental resonsibility and most parents are decent parents who do a good job.

It's not society - it's bad parenting by bad parents.
 


Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Guys I wasn't defending anyones right to be a massive f*** up. Just making the point that some people just don't know how to raise children. Which I think is really sad. But as you say why have the fuckers in the first place.
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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West Sussex
Buzzer said:
It's not society - it's bad parenting by bad parents.

...who are a product of our education system, our governments social policy, our lack of investment in local police services, our health services, our mental health services, our lack of investment and support in communities, our national press and television, our 'celebrity' culture... you name it! Roll that lot up and you have what I would call 'society'. And IMHO it's hardly surprising we have 'chavs' in deprived areas misbehaving like this.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Les Biehn said:
Guys I wasn't defending anyones right to be a massive f*** up. Just making the point that some people just don't know how to raise children. Which I think is really sad. But as you say why have the fuckers in the first place.

Part of that problem is that THEIR parents brought them up the same way. Still, I don't see why society as a whole is to blame, only certain elements who frankly are too stupid to use contraception a lot of the time.
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,202
there is no such thing as society
 






Moshe Gariani

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Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
13,580
London
Titanic said:
...who are a product of our education system, our governments social policy, our lack of investment in local police services, our health services, our mental health services, our lack of investment and support in communities, our national press and television, our 'celebrity' culture... you name it! Roll that lot up and you have what I would call 'society'. And IMHO it's hardly surprising we have 'chavs' in deprived areas misbehaving like this.

I was brought up on benefits by one parent, I have three siblings all within 3 years age difference of me. My Mum brought up the four of us on her own, we never had any money, never went on holiday etc etc. I, nor any of my siblings ever felt the need to behave like this, because we were brought up properly and taught right from wrong. Nothing to do with society, bad parenting is to blame for these twats.
 




Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Commander said:
I was brought up on benefits by one parent, I have three siblings all within 3 years age difference of me. My Mum brought up the four of us on her own, we never had any money, never went on holiday etc etc. I, nor any of my siblings ever felt the need to behave like this, because we were brought up properly and taught right from wrong. Nothing to do with society, bad parenting is to blame for these twats.

Aren't you a gay rapist though?
 




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