Cardiff Dragons

[bha100]

I like the picture of Tan and Mackay here, it puts an (R) by Tan's name.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-21610017

 

[Brovion]

It's shocking, but, he has the money and as long as he is pumping it in, they may moan and protest, but If he leaves, they're in the shit!

Yeah, people always say "it's bad but he's pumping the money in". Obviously that's true, but is it the be-all and end-all? It's a bit like you're living with your wife in a modest little house, dreaming of better things, when all of a sudden she takes up with a rich millionaire. He pays for you to move into the house of your dreams and fills it with all the consumer goods you could possible want, and all you've had to do in return is let him shag your wife. As far as material possessions are concerned you've got everything you wanted, so what's to complain about?

 

[Southstandfaithful]

The Brighton Bloomers!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

its a joke, actually feel for the fans, imagine that happening here.

As Panatani has posted, the vast majority of the fans weren't bothered but sat there meekly with their red scarves on. The offer of a free season ticket if you were photographed wearing the free scarf seems to have been more important than protesting.
At the end of the game, there were a few scarves thrown onto the pitch but very much a minority.

 

[Curious Orange]

Its all rather sad - that 20-25% are probably those that supported the club when they were knocking about in the bottom two tiers not that long ago. And as for the question of what have they ever done wearing blue?

Honours

First Division/Premier League (As first tier)

Runners-up: – 1923–24

Second Division/First Division/Championship (As second tier)

Runners-up: – 1920–21, 1951–52, 1960–61
Play-off Runners-up: – 2010
Play-off Semi-finalists: – 2011, 2012

Third Division (South)/Third Division/Second Division/League One (As third tier)

Champions: – 1946–47
Runners-up: – 1975–76, 1982–83
Play-off Winners: – 2003
Play-off Semi-finalists: – 2002

Fourth Division/Third Division/League Two (As fourth tier)

Champions: – 1992–93
Runners-up: – 1987–88, 2000–01
Play-off Semi-finalists: – 1997

FA Cup

Winners: – 1927
Runners-up: – 1925, 2008
Semi-finalists: – 1921

FA Charity Shield

Winners: – 1927

Football League Cup

Runners-up: – 2012
Semi-finalists: – 1966

Nothing much then..

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

As Panatani has posted, the vast majority of the fans weren't bothered but sat there meekly with their red scarves on. The offer of a free season ticket if you were photographed wearing the free scarf seems to have been more important than protesting.
At the end of the game, there were a few scarves thrown onto the pitch but very much a minority.

Then they will get the club they deserve (laughing stock).

I feel sorry for those that have been protesting although it would seem that they are in the minority.

 

[shaolinpunk]

I can't read the Cardiff Dragons without saying it like an American Football commentator

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Then they will get the club they deserve (laughing stock).

I feel sorry for those that have been protesting although it would seem that they are in the minority.

They'll get promotion, but the money earned will only just cover their overall debt. I could see a Pompey situation not too far in the future.

 

[Brovion]

They'll get promotion, but the money earned will only just cover their overall debt. I could see a Pompey situation not too far in the future.

Yeah, and if that happens all the Cardiff fans who've kept quiet, worn the red and just been happy with the on-field progress will start bleating (if you'll excuse the sheep pun) and saying "it's not OUR fault we're in this mess!"

 

[fratsomrover]

Stories like this scare the living daylights out of me. As envious as I might be of Cardiff's position at the top of the table, how grateful I feel at having Tony Bloom as our chairman and our 6th place in the league. What an obnoxious man Tan comes across as. He has no regard for the heritage of the club or of the feelings of the supporters. He is stinking rich and feels he can do what ever he likes, all for the benefit of his sad ego and to the detriment of the club and its supporters. They are £83.1m in debt and he says that if the fans dont like him, he'll piss-off somewhere else. How sad is that. No doubt the change of colours and the change of logo is just the start. Now it's the name, and in time I'll sure he will be put a reference to Malaysia in their title. I expect he'll also order them to tour Malaysia and maybe even play some "home" games there. Dreadful and I actually feel sorry for the die hard Cardiff supporters. Yes I can see them ending up like Pompey in a year or two's time !!!
Makes me so pleased to be an Albion supporter with such a level headed Chairman. Long live TB

 

[Bozza]

Cardiff have had a large influx of 'new fans' in the same way as the Albion have.

If the same happened here, I'm sure there would be protests, but I'm also sure the majority of what is now the Amex attendance won't do more than raise a mild grumble, if that.

If it meant they get to see the stars of the Premier League from their nicely padded Amex chair, then I think most of these new fans wouldn't care a jot.

Would the old guard be able to raise enough of a protest to make a difference? Maybe, but maybe not - many are very battle-weary now and that hard-core are now very much diluted by the c20,000 new fans.

 

[Mackenzie]

He could call them the Cardiff Tooth Fairies and dress them in pink tutu's, the club and supporters will always call them the Bluebirds and will be there long after Vincent Tan is a distant memory. (See the Palace Pier 'rebrand' for details).

 

[Daffy Duck]

And all the time they're doing well sitting pretty at the top of the league and with a great chance of premiership football next season, he will get away with it.

If they were struggling near the bottom it would be a completely different story. I mean, who's going to make too much noise over it with the promise of the EPL.

He's being very clever about the whole thing, as devious as it appears to be.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

What if we were the Mexican Brighton Jaguars and played in Green? Would you all think it was great then?

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Wait for it - Brighton Express!

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

i couldn't give a toss, the guy has saved them from bankruptcy and pumped in money that has got them top of the league. As long as he is financially secure that is the main thing, after all he is the owner and can do with the club what he pleases. If i gave a club substantial amount of money i would expect something in return, and a rebrand can just signify the beginning of a new era, and this will certainly be unparalleled success for Cardiff. At the end of the day a club is not owned by the fans in the majority of cases so you cannot presume to tell an owner what to do, i think his pr could be better sculpted and could make attempts to engage with the fans but fans should also look on the brighter side of this. The only concern i would have is a portsmouth type fiasco, but that is more prone to happen if fans ditch the club.

f***ing Christ. Really? Bill Archer?

On a general note I think it's really sad that a proper, traditional football club is having its identity and soul systematically stripped away layer by layer all for the vanity and profit of a man that has no connection to the club, city, country or sport. It's like the wimbledon mk dons thing but without actually changing city. Cardiff are dying as a football club, and that's a real shame. Not just for Cardiff but for football in this country.

The contrast with Swansea is incredible. I hope if there ever becomes a team that represents Wales it is Swansea rather than the joke that is now cardiff.

 

[Was not Was]

"when we make a decision we will convey it to everyone."

If you were desperately seeking something to say in his defence, how about: at least he doesn't pretend to give a sh*t what anyone else thinks.

 

[Lawson]

f***ing Christ. Really? Bill Archer?

On a general note I think it's really sad that a proper, traditional football club is having its identity and soul systematically stripped away layer by layer all for the vanity and profit of a man that has no connection to the club, city, country or sport. It's like the wimbledon mk dons thing but without actually changing city. Cardiff are dying as a football club, and that's a real shame. Not just for Cardiff but for football in this country.

The contrast with Swansea is incredible. I hope if there ever becomes a team that represents Wales it is Swansea rather than the joke that is now cardiff.

I dont think its that big a shame after all we used to be called the Dolphins and that changed, many clubs go through a rebrand.

If they don't want him and he takes his money and leaves the club will die over night, that impacts the staff, players and all those employed throughout the clubs infrastructure. This would have a big economic impact upon Cardiff as a whole with the removal of a financial strong club who pump money into local employment and businesses, and the contrast between having a premiership club in the area compared to a league one side is astronomical. People lose sight of importance too frequently when it comes to supporting clubs where they begin to value a theoretical attachment to an institution you are not a part of over the practical financial implications of a club that has actual importance to peoples' lives.

It isn't really like the Wimbledon MK Dons thing because the move was the integral part and this change is merely cosmetic, and it makes Cardiff look far better than their previous kit. It is a smart commercial move as the Red Dragon is synonymous with Wales and will potentially be more memorable than bluebirds.

Cardiff are far from a dying football club, and it has no negative impact upon our country unless you believe that creating additional revenue over the border in Wales has a negative impact because they will take the place of an English club in the Premiership.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

How many we would we take to an away game in Kuala Lumpur on a Tuesday evening ?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Cardiff have had a large influx of 'new fans' in the same way as the Albion have.

If the same happened here, I'm sure there would be protests, but I'm also sure the majority of what is now the Amex attendance won't do more than raise a mild grumble, if that.

If it meant they get to see the stars of the Premier League from their nicely padded Amex chair, then I think most of these new fans wouldn't care a jot.

Would the old guard be able to raise enough of a protest to make a difference? Maybe, but maybe not - many are very battle-weary now and that hard-core are now very much diluted by the c20,000 new fans.

I think you're harsh in saying we have twenty thousand new fans. There are loads who like myself went to a few Withdean games a year and a few away but have been drawn to the Amex as it's a fantastic venue and actually worth talking our kids to. I know lots of people in that situation. Returning fans yes but new, no.

And the change to seagulls from dolphins, dolphins was never popular and seagulls came from the fans!