salty seagull
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That is unbelievably harsh and for what it`s worth, I really feel for you. I hope you`ve got plenty of support to help you through it,. All the best mate.
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Can the consciousness live on after the human body dies?
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That is unbelievably harsh and for what it`s worth, I really feel for you. I hope you`ve got plenty of support to help you through it,. All the best mate.
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thks mate.
Box of Frogs
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Life can be unbelievably tough at times and again, without wanting to get into a religious debate, why would a just and merciful God put anyone through what you are going through?
Thoughts are with you in these dark times Bushy.
Thoughts are with you in these dark times Bushy.
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thks mate
daveinprague
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Bushy, my thoughts with you and your family....
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thks dave.
It's not easy seeing your loved ones come to the end of their mortal life but Bushy you will keep your wonderful memories of your Dad and that is how he lives on with you.
Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.
Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.
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I had a similar conversation with my Dad before he died. He simply said that a part of him would always live in me and my Brother, our children and their children until the line dies out. I found this very comforting and related this story to my sons, on the day Dad died, and although only 12 and 9 it helped them come to terms with losing their Grandad.
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funnily enough my kids are 11 and 8 , so very similar in age to your 2 .
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cheers mate.
daveinprague
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My mother is 90 this month, and having seen her dancing like a lunatic at family wedding last month, I can only imagine she will out-live me.
Me and my step dad had a pact, that if either of us left this earth, we would pass down the lotto numbers...ive heard nothing, so expect nothing to be honest ...
and regarding TV...remember all the warnings and scaremongering that went on, when colour TV made its appearance...
Me and my step dad had a pact, that if either of us left this earth, we would pass down the lotto numbers...ive heard nothing, so expect nothing to be honest ...
and regarding TV...remember all the warnings and scaremongering that went on, when colour TV made its appearance...
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If we're going to talk about 'ghosts' now rather than consciousness living on my dad (a hard-line, sceptical, card-carrying, rational atheist) had a similar experience. He had a client who said he was psychic and my dad was cordially sceptical. When my dad went to his office this guy often used to lie on a couch and while my dad worked he would make all sorts of pronouncements telling my dad things about his (dad's) family which were accurate, but dad reasoned he could the information from anywhere. One day he said "Oh Bob, I'm sorry but your mum's going. Yes. Bye bye Lillian, bye bye! God speed!" My dad thought this was in pretty bad taste as his mum had been ill but wasn't deemed to be at death's door. He didn't say anything, however he did look at the clock which said 2:31pm. When he got back to his own office there was a message for him to call his dad - who informed him his mum had died suddenly at 2:30 that afternoon.
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Sorry to read about your dad Bushy.....difficult times for you all.
My dad who died many, many years ago now, also was admitted to a hospice (St.Barnabus). I think we were all fearful of it, and it may sound daft, but what an amazingly calm atmosphere there. When you walked in the doors, the staff, patients and visitors were all so incredibly positive and understanding, it was like being wrapped in cotton wool away from the harsh realities. There was no fear in that building.
The pain control expertise of them actually gave my dad a new lease of life for a short while....even had wine with his meals...lol. He was there for months and in the end, they actually called my mum into the office (I was with her) and said "We,re going to send him home, because we don't think he's going die"....lol...!! It was very surreal at the time. He came home on the Friday evening and on the Sunday evening on my daily visit he said he was going to ask St.Barnabus to re-admit him as he liked it there. He died peacefully in his sleep at home that night.
With regards to an after-life, I have no idea........but I really want to meet him again.
I was 29 when he died and in all that time, we never had a proper conversation. We would pass the time of day, but the 'past' was an absolute no-go area. A few years ago, I started to trace my family tree and discovered he had been married before and had 4 children. His first marriage was falling apart and his then wife, according to the children was a mad and violent woman. She actually broke his arm with a cricket bat during one spat..! He wanted to leave and she was determined he would never see them again.The children were 1, 3, and 10 year old twins at the time. They never saw or heard anything about him again until I found them. At the time he left his wife there wasn't legal aid, the benefits system or communication sytstems or anything like there is today.
It transpires after further investigation, that he was aware until he died, how they were getting on.......but was never able to see them. It must have been incredibly difficult for him. During my younger life while he was alive he always worked a minimum of 6 full days a week, mostly seven, but he never ever seemed to have any spare money, which at the time I never understood. My friends dads all had involvement in their lives and I did used to feel more than a little envious of them. Nonetheless, he always made sure there was food on the table and a roof over our heads (and some of the rented basement flats we lived in were pretty grim). His 'spare' money of course, was going on maintenance for his other 4 children.
If/when I see him again, I so much want to say...."thanks dad, you did so much more than your best....I now understand you".
PS; Sorry for the rant......sometimes you just need to tell someone.
My dad who died many, many years ago now, also was admitted to a hospice (St.Barnabus). I think we were all fearful of it, and it may sound daft, but what an amazingly calm atmosphere there. When you walked in the doors, the staff, patients and visitors were all so incredibly positive and understanding, it was like being wrapped in cotton wool away from the harsh realities. There was no fear in that building.
The pain control expertise of them actually gave my dad a new lease of life for a short while....even had wine with his meals...lol. He was there for months and in the end, they actually called my mum into the office (I was with her) and said "We,re going to send him home, because we don't think he's going die"....lol...!! It was very surreal at the time. He came home on the Friday evening and on the Sunday evening on my daily visit he said he was going to ask St.Barnabus to re-admit him as he liked it there. He died peacefully in his sleep at home that night.
With regards to an after-life, I have no idea........but I really want to meet him again.
I was 29 when he died and in all that time, we never had a proper conversation. We would pass the time of day, but the 'past' was an absolute no-go area. A few years ago, I started to trace my family tree and discovered he had been married before and had 4 children. His first marriage was falling apart and his then wife, according to the children was a mad and violent woman. She actually broke his arm with a cricket bat during one spat..! He wanted to leave and she was determined he would never see them again.The children were 1, 3, and 10 year old twins at the time. They never saw or heard anything about him again until I found them. At the time he left his wife there wasn't legal aid, the benefits system or communication sytstems or anything like there is today.
It transpires after further investigation, that he was aware until he died, how they were getting on.......but was never able to see them. It must have been incredibly difficult for him. During my younger life while he was alive he always worked a minimum of 6 full days a week, mostly seven, but he never ever seemed to have any spare money, which at the time I never understood. My friends dads all had involvement in their lives and I did used to feel more than a little envious of them. Nonetheless, he always made sure there was food on the table and a roof over our heads (and some of the rented basement flats we lived in were pretty grim). His 'spare' money of course, was going on maintenance for his other 4 children.
If/when I see him again, I so much want to say...."thanks dad, you did so much more than your best....I now understand you".
PS; Sorry for the rant......sometimes you just need to tell someone.
Seagull kimchi
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Super thread.
Beautifully told story about 'the other side'.
Sums up human spirit in so many ways. Good luck.
Beautifully told story about 'the other side'.
Sums up human spirit in so many ways. Good luck.
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Indeed. And no need to apologist [MENTION=4790]cjd[/MENTION], it was a great story. Funny how we've all got 'backstories' and can empathise with each other when usually we're arguing about immigration or whatever!
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Indeed !
Da Man Clay
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No rant there fella. What a heart warming couple of stories. Glad that the hospice could do so much good for him, and increidble that he could keep the second family such a secret. Sounds a lovely bloke.
I lost my mum very suddenly in July last year. She was 43. I really hope I get to see her again - so much that I never got to say. It's weird but every now and again I do get a really strong smell of her perfume. I just moved into a new flat and I got the smell about half hour after moving in. I like to think it was her paying a visit and seeing my new place. I know it's probably all in my head but it's some comfort.
Thoughts go out to you Bushy. All the best.
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thks dmc , so sorry to hear about your mum.