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Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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He'll need to do more than "tinker" to sort this mess out, but I will be there on Saturday to see for myself.

That's where Adams went wrong last year. You don't build a team by changing four or five after every defeat. A couple of adjustments are needed at a time. That way you don't go from disaster to disaster.
 




Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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That's where Adams went wrong last year. You don't build a team by changing four or five after every defeat. A couple of adjustments are needed at a time. That way you don't go from disaster to disaster.

Maybe, maybe not. Either way, lets just hope we can turn it around on Saturday afternoon
 








Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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f*** their confidence. I don't give a shit how they feel. They're getting PAID for this. Think of the poor bastards who went up there to support them tonight. I wouldn't expect us to lose 7-1 to a Premiership team (bar the big four), so to do it at Huddersfield is an utter disgrace. They're lucky they won't be having their contracts ripped up in the morning, so don't start talking about THEIR confidence.

He's got a point you know
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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f*** their confidence. I don't give a shit how they feel. They're getting PAID for this. Think of the poor bastards who went up there to support them tonight. I wouldn't expect us to lose 7-1 to a Premiership team (bar the big four), so to do it at Huddersfield is an utter disgrace. They're lucky they won't be having their contracts ripped up in the morning, so don't start talking about THEIR confidence.

As others have said we didn't play particularly poorly, and for the first half hour had a lot more possession than Town, although we looked impotent up front and unlikely to score. There were mistakes for the first three goals, and once FDM went off we had no chance.

Credit should be given too for the excellent counterattacking style of Huddersfield, they had pace, power and width and used it to their advantage.

The fact that the fans didn't turn on the players, even Bomber at left back, and stayed until the 94th minute without skulking off shows that it was a dreadful result, but not a dreadful performance.
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Coming from the man who has provided us with the biggest "oh dear" moment in nsc history just a few weeks ago I find these responses quite excellent. Still, I wouldn't expect you to know anything about a shite AWAY defeat.

Been to several. But don't let me stop you thinking otherwise. I'm just going to shrug my shoulders and move on to the next thing. I've got other things to care about that reflecting on a 7-1 defeat.

It's just a joy to sit back and watch you in full flow seething with such r-a-g-e, shouting and spitting bile at anything within range. Do carry on, old love...
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Unlike me to agree with TLO but it is the likes of Virgo, Elphick. Cox Graham Smith etc that have got to be picked up. Like us they will be devastated by that defeat but they are the ones that have got to get over it and fight their way out of the doldrums. We have played 2 poorish sides in the league and done ok on the field except obviously the result against Walsall but the actual 2nd half performance was ok. Perhaps this result will be our turning point and make us, players, fans and management realise that we are not ok and need more strengthening. RS has said he wants to bring in 2 or 3 more players lets hope that they are quality players not to just make up the squad numbers.
 




Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Giraffe is right, and a 7-1 defeat CAN be explained away as a 'bad day at the office'. Last season Burnley didn't score in their first three games and only had one point (courtesy of a 0-0 draw) - and they ended up getting promoted. Mind you they never lost their third game 7-1 .....

It's a little bit like last season isn't it? (Except we're crap right from the start). We thought the new players Adams bought in were going to be better than the largely home-grown lot we had under Wilkins ..... and they weren't. This year lots of people thought the players we bought in this year were better than the ones we let go. Are they? After all the best* midfield we had last year contained Fraser, Loft and Dicker. Two of those were released and one can't, inexplicably, get into the side.

*Definition of 'best': the one that got the best results after all the other combinations of signings and loans took us to the brink of relegation.
 


Horney

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Oct 12, 2008
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Defeats of 5 goals or more in pro football always need careful examination. Were the winners so brilliant that we were simply blown away or did we do a lot to create our own downfall.
The manager is persisting with 4.5.1, which clearly isn't working. He is ringing the changes to find the right team to fit in with his formation. This side is making a lot of unforced errors..like last season. The same players, whose limitations have clearly been shown in the past are still playing for us and still making basic errors. Guilty as charged are........
Kuipers/El Abd/Cox/McLeod/Virgo...none of them are consistent enough.
Throw in an error strewn start from Whing and Navarro and thats why we are 23rd in the table.
Lots of people are bigging up Huddersfield but they won't find another side that surrenders as abjectly as us all season.
I still wince at the 8-2 home defeat to Bristol Rovers and that was 36 years ago! So anyone who thinks this result will blow away in a few days is mistaken. When you are embarrassed and humiliated it lodges itself deep in the mind and stays there.
I hope we can turn the corner on Saturday and the character of every member of the squad is now under severe examination.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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If we are unable to give Stockport a good game having cherry picked their players (even if none of them actually get to play) and the troubles they have had, I think we can forget about anything but a long hard season.

I'll put my panic on hold for a few days, but every other team in the league has new players and every single one seems to have "gelled" better than us so far. I worry for this season but we have to stick with Slade, however disastrous the results, until at least Christmas imo. The sacking of Dean Wilkins looks more and more ill advised as time goes by.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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Yes of course the scoreline is disappointing, but the result (us losing) was not and in the scheme of a 46 game season losing one game away to one of the teams likely to be promoted is not a disaster.

Losing away is not dissapointing. This was the attitude that McGhee got flamed for when we played Stoke and had already gone down. EVERY match matters.
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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I heard you on the phone-in, and while you're generally pretty eloquent and have good opinions, I do disagree with this point about "possession" and "forcing corners" showing that we're the better team. As far as I can tell, we manage both of those things, but neither constitute a team that is either playing well or likely to score. Have we, at any point in our four games this season, looked like creating a scoring opportunity? Do we have any pacy or skilful players? Do we have anyone capable of unlocking a defence? No, no, no. And you can have all the possession in the world, but ultimately it's those other things that will score you goals and win you games.

Sure, Huddersfield are a good team, and in my pre-season predictions with a friend I put them as my champions. I have no problem with us losing there - it's the MANNER of defeat that's atrocious. If they're top 2 material, and we want to be top 6/top half material, we should at least be able to go there and compete. Even if we lose, it should be by no more than the odd goal. To get totally humiliated is quite another thing, and I wonder just how much is wrong with this team now.

If you asked any Albion fan there after 20 minutes did they think we would lose 7-1 the answer would have been no. We looked tidy, but unthreatening, and half expected another scintillating 0-0 in a similar style to Brentford.

There were however far too many unforced errors, and we paid dearly for them.

Perhaps, just perhaps, some credit should be given to Huddersfield for the way they played, or is that too much to ask when you are having yet another coronary on NSC?
 


Zebedee

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Jul 8, 2003
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We have played three games, THREE games. One of these was against the best team in the division and surprise surprise we lost. letting in seven goals is a bloody disaster of course but it can happen. Sometimes teams fall apart from one incident and often it is teams that have been rebuilt and have not yet properly gelled. Slade is trying to get the team right but everyone had confidence in him at the start of the season, so why change now after one shocker of a result against the division's best team.

I think in a few months time the draw at Brentford will look like a good result, a very good result. Walsall was a fluke own goal.

Things will turn, starting Saturday.

And should we lose on Saturday, what then????
 


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