[Albion] Brighton's Roberto De Zerbi drawing attention of Europe's top clubs

[Justice]

This is my point. Hypothetically, if RDZ really wanted to go (understandably) but Barca couldn't/wouldn't pay the full amount, it would be better for the Albion (IMO) to come to some agreement, rather than having a manager who feels resentment because he couldn't get his dream move. That's all I'm saying. I don't think it's right, or fair, just thinking that the team *could* suffer with a moody Roberto around.

It's a bit of a stretch to go from negotiating on a manager to selling a star player for a massive discount!

Would you have the same attitude if it was Chelsea and they couldn’t pay the full amount of compensation because of their FFP limits? Daft attitude to have.
Barca spent beyond their means why should TB feel sorry for them.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Would you have the same attitude if it was Chelsea and they couldn’t pay the full amount of compensation because of their FFP limits? Daft attitude to have.
Barca spent beyond their means why should TB feel sorry for them.

OK (FFS!), leave aside the financial aspect in this totally theoretical situation for a moment: Barcelona wants RDZ. RDZ wants Barcelona. But the Albion won't let him out of his contract. Do you think RDZ is going to be the same manager, with the same focus, enthusiasm and drive as he had before?

 

[WhingForPresident]

I feel pretty sure he won't be with us next season, which would be a shame, but obviously not the end of the world.

Farioli surely has to be on the shortlist if he goes.

 

[bluenitsuj]

I expect nothing but a win today if De Zerbi is that good.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Do non-league players and managers never leave for bigger clubs then?

Come on, no need to he pedantic, not as consistently as this.

 

[tigertim68]

From what I can understand , I think RDZ will stay if the club will become more ambitious
and gives RDZ a chance to compete for trophies,
which means not selling your best 2 players every summer

 

[The Fits]

From what I can understand , I think RDZ will stay if the club will become more ambitious
and gives RDZ a chance to compete for trophies,
which means not selling your best 2 players every summer

Not if a team like Barca or Liverpool seriously wants him. Nobody turns down that.

 

[MJsGhost]

OK (FFS!), leave aside the financial aspect in this totally theoretical situation for a moment: Barcelona wants RDZ. RDZ wants Barcelona. But the Albion won't let him out of his contract. Do you think RDZ is going to be the same manager, with the same focus, enthusiasm and drive as he had before?

I totally get where you're coming from, BUT...

Two things:

1) If Barcelona can't find the money for what is in the grand scheme of football finance, a measly sum to pay his release clause, what does that tell one about how badly they want him and/or how much of a mess the club is in?
If RdZ REALLY wants to go, he can chip in for his release. There is no blaming Albion for an unfeasibly high fee - if it was met, he can go. Barca could very easily find the money if they had to - total revenues there are over £1bn.

2) What is the long-term cost of Bloom negotiating on a fee like this? Currently, clubs the world over know that the Albion don't budge. It's pay up, or piss off. That reputation has been earned and shouldn't be given up lightly.

Dealing with a stroppy RdZ would be tricky, but he'd get over it as the fault would not be Albion's.

 

[tigertim68]

Not if a team like Barca or Liverpool seriously wants him. Nobody turns down that.

I think getting The Liverpool job after Klopp will be very difficult, Barca is a bit of a basket case at the moment, with not much money to spend, so maybe he would stay

 

[portslade seagull]

From what I can understand , I think RDZ will stay if the club will become more ambitious
and gives RDZ a chance to compete for trophies,
which means not selling your best 2 players every summer

No chance of Not selling are best two players as that is the model. Its replacing them adequately which is the problem as we've seen in midfield this season.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

is there some bit of news I’ve missed here, or are people squabbling over a totally non-existent, random proposal from Barcelona that someone’s pulled out of their arse? The tendency for football fans to dream up elaborate scenarios just to have an argument is exactly what Talk Sport taps into.

 

[Surf's Up]

RDZ should probably try to work out how to get his team to play effectively against the low block before becoming too ambitious!!

 

[Withdean11]

Not if a team like Barca or Liverpool seriously wants him. Nobody turns down that.

True, but..

If we matched his ambition in January and got him to sign the new contract, the £10m release clause could’ve become £20m and priced Barca out of going for him.

IF January has left him pissed off, his agents could easily be mentioning his name around to clubs as being available in the summer. Makes a big difference.

 

[Justice]

RDZ’s won nothing of significance and I worry that his brand of football won’t yield a consistency that will win trophies. I’d be surprised if a top club came just now but I’m sure TB and the Barber can lure a great replacement no sweat.

And if they lure a great replacement we will be in the same predicament in another season and a bit. I’m not sure how long a football club can operate like that before the bubble bursts. Not keeping a consistent side or manager together for more than a season will eventually take its toll.

 

[Zeberdi]

True, but..

If we matched his ambition in January and got him to sign the new contract, the £10m release clause could’ve become £20m and priced Barca out of going for him.

IF January has left him pissed off, his agents could easily be mentioning his name around to clubs as being available in the summer. Makes a big difference.

Did you not see the article that everyone is referring to - Barca can’t afford the £10 million let alone £20 m - they have apparently said they want RDZ if his agents can get us to waiver the release clause. But it is all gossip, gossip and more gossip.

A big difference to what?

Everything is idle speculation….including if he feels we have not matched his current ambitions … we dont even know where those lay other than what he is doing now with this season‘s work.

Time to put this thread on ignore for my peace of mind I think!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Did you not see the article that everyone is referring to - Barca can’t afford the £10 million let alone £20 m - they have apparently said they want RDZ if his agents can get us to waiver the release clause. But it is all gossip, gossip and more gossip.

A big difference to what?

Everything is idle speculation….including if he feels we have not matched his current ambitions … we dont even know where those lay other than what he is doing now with this season‘s work.

Time to put this thread on ignore for my peace of mind I think!

Other solutions are available.

 

[Weststander]

Who’s next on Tony’s list then?

Highly unlikely, but I hope Tony tries to tempt Amorim with PL football.

It will probably be Klopp, after Steve Cooper turns us down.

 

[BevBHA]

OK (FFS!), leave aside the financial aspect in this totally theoretical situation for a moment: Barcelona wants RDZ. RDZ wants Barcelona. But the Albion won't let him out of his contract. Do you think RDZ is going to be the same manager, with the same focus, enthusiasm and drive as he had before?

Your stocks can fall as quick as they’ve risen in football. The same for players and managers. If he got the poke and went off the boil would any big club want him? He’d have to keep his standards up to still be even linked to the big clubs.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Has RDZ said he wants to leave for Barca or has the club ever given us reason to believe they keep staff by force?

It may be a ‘theoretical’ situation you are describing but, with all due respect, it is a moot scenario anyway because your parties are theoretical. The real parties IMO wouldn't behave in the way you describe.

Both BHA and RDZ are parties to an employment contract - if RDZ wanted to leave, the Club would negotiate the release of his contract upon the terms RDZ signed it and any contract made with Barca or any other Club RDZ might be interested in in some undefined future, would be negotiated in the light of those terms. If Barca or any other Club can’t afford a £10 m release clause, which Barca can’t, then they certainly won’t be able to splash out on the top players RDZ would want in any big team he joined in order to impose his stamp on it.

‘Barcelona’s salary limit, their first-team budget set by the league’s financial fair play rules, is €270m, compared with €727m for Real Madrid. That would be difficult enough, but the amount they are spending on their squad – while down from €676m, and much as they have shed some of their highest earners, such as Sergio Busquets, Jordi Alba, Antoine Griezmann, and Gérard Pique – is €492m. Because they are over their limit, league rules allow them to spend only a third of what they can show they have saved. For every euro spent, they must demonstrate that three have been brought in.’

A guaranteed quarter final finish in the UEFA CL is the least they need to achieve this season to turn it around. Their financial woes are not going to improve any time soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/31/baarcelona-debt-off-pace-davids-revive-season#:~:text=Barcelona%27s%20total%20debt%20is%20€,projecting%20an%20€11m%20profit.

Not the sort of frustration I imagine any manager wants to walk into on the first day in the job.

I give up

 

[The Optimist]

Russell Martin will never come here

As in he doesn’t like the club so would never join or he will never be good enough for us? If the former what’s the story?