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[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Fulham *** Official Match Thread ***
- Thread starter Dick Head
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More VAR, you say?
In fact, I agree with that. I like VAR, and am hoping that eventually the wankaz overseeing it will learn how to do it properly.
However a ref cannot let play go on when a player is acting as if injured. especially a head injury. The ref has an obligation to oversee health and safety on the pitch.
The issue is what type of injury. When their keeper went down with cramp - half way to the half way line, the ref should have let play go on. When our player went down with a head injury (possibly) he let play go on and they scored. That was complete madness, and makes a mockery of the seriousness of the game.
Still, I can't complain about the result, Better than last year's so those who are suggesting we are going backwards might perhaps give their heads a wobble, whoever they are.
I assume this is a joke?
Just back.
Frustrating, Very frustrating. First half was fine. We weren’t playing scintillating stuff but we had a lead and were in total control. Igor was looking solid as a rock. Dunky imperious as always. Baleba pulling strings nicely and winning back possession on the rare occasion Fulham had it.
Second half we allowed our soft underbelly to be exposed again. They pushed higher, with more intensity and, crucially, they employed the dark arts to completely disrupt our flow. We began to look rattled. Baleba seemed to tire a little but I like him a lot. We woke up in the final quarter and could have come away with all three points if we’d had a lucky bobble or two in the box. Disappointing but not catastrophic I guess. At least we’ve extended the gap on United, West Ham and them this weekend if nothing else.
Refereeing? Abysmal. Bought every trick being sold.
Frustrating, Very frustrating. First half was fine. We weren’t playing scintillating stuff but we had a lead and were in total control. Igor was looking solid as a rock. Dunky imperious as always. Baleba pulling strings nicely and winning back possession on the rare occasion Fulham had it.
Second half we allowed our soft underbelly to be exposed again. They pushed higher, with more intensity and, crucially, they employed the dark arts to completely disrupt our flow. We began to look rattled. Baleba seemed to tire a little but I like him a lot. We woke up in the final quarter and could have come away with all three points if we’d had a lucky bobble or two in the box. Disappointing but not catastrophic I guess. At least we’ve extended the gap on United, West Ham and them this weekend if nothing else.
Refereeing? Abysmal. Bought every trick being sold.
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Exactly, we got done both times if my (poor) memory serves me correctly. 1 point > 0 points. It’s still progress.
nwgull
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Their goal? I’m not sure. Haven’t seen the replay properly, but it seemed to be an excellent strike. Maybe Sanchez in his prime form for us might have got a glove to it.
We do seem to be conceding more from outside or from the edge of the box that we used to though. Don’t know if the stats back this up or it’s my prejudice that notices it more. Steele’s XGa stats compared to actual goals aren’t great though.
VAR doing its job properly ....... still, guess that's too much to ask. The suggestion made earlier, that video evidence should be examined and retrospective bans should be given is probably a better way forward. A player writhing about cluctching his face when the video clearly shows that such contact as there was was nowhere near his face? Retrospectve red card - job's a good 'un.More VAR, you say?
In fact, I agree with that. I like VAR, and am hoping that eventually the wankaz overseeing it will learn how to do it properly.
However a ref cannot let play go on when a player is acting as if injured. especially a head injury. The ref has an obligation to oversee health and safety on the pitch.
The issue is what type of injury. When their keeper went down with cramp - half way to the half way line, the ref should have let play go on. When our player went down with a head injury (possibly) he let play go on and they scored. That was complete madness, and makes a mockery of the seriousness of the game.
Still, I can't complain about the result, Better than last year's so those who are suggesting we are going backwards might perhaps give their heads a wobble, whoever they are.
Likewise a clear dive that the referee missed and the incompetant match day VAR couldn't be bothered to stop watching babe station to look at.
Babe Station doesn't start broadcasting till 10 pm.
Ferguson has been poor pretty much all season, obviously Newcastle aside.
I keep banging on about it but he has played a ridiculous amount of high level/intensity football for club and country this year for an 18/19 year old and he really needs a break for both Brighton and Ireland. He shouldn’t be starting games for us IMO, especially ahead of our best forward Pedro.
Done to death never will work.
Certainly for head injuries there should be an appointed doctor who attends the poor soul. He then is removed from the pitch (ALWAYS) for a proper assessment. A temporary sub can come on 1 minute after the restart. If VAR proves no contact the player is sent off for cheating.
You learn something new every day on NSC!
FA appointed doctor and physio. Not club ones allowed on the pitch. You want treatment by your own physio get off the pitch.
I've seen worse suggestions.
Yep. We have discussed this to death too. If a player claims they are so injured they need instant treatment they should be taken off the pitch for at least 10 minutes, or subbed, and not allowed to get up and play on (not even leave the pitch) as happened today. The referee was a disgrace. You can't cure a life-threatening injury with a wet sponge. The players are cheating.
Agree with this - he was excellent when he came on v Ajax - there is a player there for sure but he needs to play.
I agree that ref's can't book a player for faking an injury but by making every player that causes a stop in play to go off the field then that would reduce the incentive to fake an injury.
boik
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Watched the match and thought we were good at times, poor for about 15 minutes. Reading this thread makes it sound like we are crap all of the time at the moment. Then I remembered Giraffes tracker. Consulted it and decided to make a cuppa instead of reading this any more. We're doing fine at a difficult time.
Excellent summary, I think the constant but necessary rotation is making it more difficult for the players as they're not used to playing together and it's noticeable that our passing and interplay, particularly in the final third, is slower and a bit more ponderous and predictable than last year
A player can still just say "my knee/head/neck/calf etc hurts"
Does not matter who is going on the pitch, maybe they could scan them on the pitch?