BRIGHTON fans doing nothing for our reputation again

[saltash seagull]

I, too, stand corrected.

Those who suggest we should be giving him a break are right and I should have known better. My apologies for not reading the facts properly.

I would have had far less sympathy if he was convicted last night as apparently there were 40 blokes bent on trouble in the same trouble spot. However this guy was there on the first night so it does seem he could easily have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

i agree simster if he was arrested last nite after 2 nights of trouble then i'd want to know wat he was doing in that area cos any real football fan would surely try and stay away from trouble

 

[Uncle Buck]

Not that I’m condoning it, just think the press should, from time to time be had-up for incitement.

Glad it is not just me that thinks that.

Anyone else hope that Rob Shepherd got a hard time during his stint at her majesty's pleasure?

 

[saltash seagull]

what do you mean isn't good PR for the club?

IT IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE CLUB

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION THING

JESUS

and this is albion fans trying to make out it's a brighton and hove albion thing im sure the media could turn it that way

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

what do you mean isn't good PR for the club?

IT IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE CLUB

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION THING

JESUS

Dave, calm down, all I'm saying is that we've tarred many clubs in the past for actions of a tiny minority of their fans, we should be prepared to get some flack in return.

 

[Captain Sensible]

and this is albion fans trying to make out it's a brighton and hove albion thing im sure the media could turn it that way

Yeah, Safeway was stupid to start this thread. He's from Burgess Hill, he allegedly through a bottle and may or may not support Brighton. So what? What is the point of this? It's nothing to do with our club. However, shite press like the arsegass do read these websites and one lowlife journo might want a page 2 exclusive in the arsegass to create anti-falmer headlines.

 

[saltash seagull]

Yeah, Safeway was stupid to start this thread. He's from Burgess Hill, he allegedly through a bottle and may or may not support Brighton. So what? What is the point of this? It's nothing to do with our club. However, shite press like the arsegass do read these websites and one lowlife journo might want a page 2 exclusive in the arsegass to create anti-falmer headlines.

how was safeway stupid for starting this thread? as bozza and others have pointed out andrew is a brighton fan safeway was just posting wat he knew

 

[Safeway]

Yeah, Safeway was stupid to start this thread. He's from Burgess Hill, he allegedly through a bottle and may or may not support Brighton. So what? What is the point of this? It's nothing to do with our club. However, shite press like the arsegass do read these websites and one lowlife journo might want a page 2 exclusive in the arsegass to create anti-falmer headlines.

The fact that I heard about this FROM a journalist would suggest that The Argus et al would have known about it long before any of us.

Thanks anyway for your concern about my intellect.

 

[Simster]

Even if he was a complete moron (and it's looking doubtful by the sounds of things), the actions of one man would have no bearing on whether or not a 22,000 all seater stadium should be built.

It's a non story. If any anti-Falmer campaigner wants to jump on it, be my guest - they'd look so desperate. It would be such clutching at straws that they'd look like they'd already lost the real argument.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Yeah, Safeway was stupid to start this thread. He's from Burgess Hill, he allegedly through a bottle and may or may not support Brighton. So what? What is the point of this? It's nothing to do with our club. However, shite press like the arsegass do read these websites and one lowlife journo might want a page 2 exclusive in the arsegass to create anti-falmer headlines.

I cannot believe that you honestly believe that this will have anything to do with the Falmer application. Please regain some grip on reality.

 

[Brixtaan]

 

[saltash seagull]

Even if he was a complete moron (and it's looking doubtful by the sounds of things), the actions of one man would have no bearing on whether or not a 22,000 all seater stadium should be built.

It's a non story. If any anti-Falmer campaigner wants to jump on it, be my guest - they'd look so desperate. It would be such clutching at straws that they'd look like they'd already lost the real argument.

very true would look a bit desperate to bring up the actions of 1 man when 30,000 went to cardiff without any trouble

 

[saltash seagull]

watching the fans in court today on sky sports shows wat a closed shop this is cos there is a lot of them only a few journo's and no member's of the public are allowed into a court room 2days after the events with no legal representive's wat chance have they actully got if they are innocent?

 

[aftershavedave]

I cannot believe that you honestly believe that this will have anything to do with the Falmer application. Please regain some grip on reality.

well said

 

[Albion Rob]

Maybe this situation (although I doubt it) could b a real chance to have a proper look at what goes on with our fans abroad.

Local police don't turn out in force expecting a row with the Swiss or the Danes, why is it always our lot. It is well documented but only in some quarters that the biggest fight of Euro 88 didn't involve England fans, but Dutch and Germans, despite this, the English lads (as well as the players) came home to a roasting (no, not that sort).

But what is going on out there? I can only speak from a single experience and that was Faro a few months ago. What I saw were a few thousand England fans having a good day out, but when most left for the game there were two relatively minor scuffles which resulted in a handful of arrests. From what I saw there was a tiny confrontation between two blokes and before you knw it there were quite a few wading in and chucking chairs.

But how does this come about? Is it just a case of us being bad a long time ago and our reputation preceeding us? I'm not sure. People talk of an island mentality and I think this has some credance. Certainly if someone is getting a shoeing then England fans will always step in to hel their own, but that surely can't be it.

Perhaps in this country we all just have a propensity for a good old ruck now and then, which unfortuantely sems to be exported abroad for major championships.

2,500 banning orders were handed out before th tournament. when we take 2,500 away with us I reckon that's a good turnout, so that's a hell of a lot of people to be sitting at home, yet it has still kicked off.

I don't know the answers, I'm not even sure I know the question anymore, but I would like to see an independant task force set up to look into the matter. Do the police see it as a chance to crack a few heads (as the Met did with Palace away)? Do we have a few agitators who nd up getting everyone in trouble as things get heated? Or do we have a problem where we can't help but be loud and abusive to foreigners in thier own countries?

As an aside, I would imagine there would have been UK police there at least on the second night, as they were for the friendly, but I also know from experience they are shit and don't know the laws or protocol of Portugal (or at least didn't as recently as February) but the mentality among them was more to do with maintaining the status quo that England fans are bad rather than sort out the situation.

Maybe everyone's just in it for the overtime....

 

[sully]

Leaving alone the main thrust of the comments on here, I'm having difficulty with people saying he was stupid to be in a known trouble spot - even though we now know that wasn't the case.

Back in the 70s, it could easily be said that anyone attending a football match was therefore an idiot as it was a known trouble spot. In that period, I learnt how to keep my head down and keep out of trouble most of the time. Unfortunately, I got caught up in some sillyness a couple of times, but lived to tell the tale.

If we all followed the advice of avoiding places where trouble has happened before, none of us would go out on a Friday night in Brighton.

Reality check time.

 

[Captain Sensible]

I cannot believe that you honestly believe that this will have anything to do with the Falmer application. Please regain some grip on reality.

Any tiny incident involving BHAFC in a negative light will give NIMBYS and the ill informed a reason to shout that if Brighton have fans like that that they have a Hooligan problem and could bring trouble to Falmer. This is the way in which the Argus would report it. Or at least headline it. Its a Yob problem in the Algave and starting a thread "BRIGHTON fans doing nothing for our reputation again" I think is stupid. Where did they "Again" come from?? Our fans have come top of the whole country in a poll recently and I don't think one bloke being involved in a scuffle in the Algarve would bring reputation down.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I think you are a bit late worrying about the Argus, it is already on the front page.

 

[saltash seagull]

I think you are a bit late worrying about the Argus, it is already on the front page.

so does it look like the bloke you call billy?

 

[Uncle Buck]

so does it look like the bloke you call billy?

Sadly it is the same lad.

 

[Captain Sensible]

bollocks