[Politics] Brexit

[Baker lite]

Sorry, I thought you might like some evidence that shows strong support for the EU in Europe, seems like half the parliament is the Netherlands in pro EU and has never been stronger

Yes, you’re quite right, there is strong support of the EU in the EU.
We are not in the EU though. Irrelevant really [emoji2371]


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[nicko31]

Sorry, I thought you might like some evidence that shows strong support for the EU in Europe, seems like half the parliament is the Netherlands in pro EU and has never been stronger

There is no Dutch election thread...

 

[Baker lite]

There is no Dutch election thread...

Perhaps you could start one, without the usual casual racism of your usual posts please.


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[nicko31]

Perhaps you could start one, without the usual casual racism of your usual posts please.


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Not overly interested to be honest, we know the Dutch are stealing our lunch. I work with them a lot, easy to deal with and speak better English than many Brits

On Brexit benefits lets just focus on new opportunities that didn't exist 3 months ago....

 

[WATFORD zero]

Excellent. A Brexit supporter, and one I know likes to get this thread back on topic.

So maybe you could answer the question for your friend and tell us what you think is going to happen to address these issues over the next 12 months ?

A Northern Ireland protocol which is unsustainable and we are having to break International law rather than implement the rest of what we agreed in the Deal.
A Fishing Industry that is on it's knees and won't survive the year in any significant form without changes to the Deal.
An enormous hit on any company that Exports that will not change unless there are changes to the Deal.
We keep pushing back Import controls because we don't have the infrastructure, systems or staff to implement them and to avoid the impact of Import controls on supply lines and supermarket shelves. But we will have to implement some sort of controls eventually unless we get changes to the Deal.
The Financial Services market is haemorrhaging into the EU, US and elsewhere. We either need to negotiate Equivalence with the EU or undertake massive de-regulation to compete with places like Singapore, because without changes, it will simply continue to pour out.

Because the fact is that the deal has been negotiated, written, signed off and parts of it delivered, and we are all in this together.

So maybe just go for one of them and we can discuss your proposed solutions to that, and then work through them individually. It will be good to get some positive, 'can do' thinking on these

Well since I've asked this of JCFG a couple of times and opened it up to all Brexit supporters for suggestions over the last week and not one of them seems capable of a suggestion, I've started to work through possible solutions myself. I thought we were all in this together and moving forward Anyway,

In order to resolve a large part of the issues with the NI Protocol, we could sign a Swiss-style veterinary agreement which would remove a large number of issues surrounding the movement of food between NI and the UK. The benefit for UK businesses would be that we would no longer need health export certificates for sending goods to Northern Ireland, one of the major problems as we stand.

However, if the UK did sign this type of agreement it would keep the UK bound to EU hygiene rules permanently. It would probably rule out any trade deal with the US, with Washington demanding any deal include hormone-injected beef and chlorinated chicken, which would obviously fall below the EU's hygiene standards, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.

So what do the Brexit supporters on here think about that as a solution, or maybe they could suggest an alternative

 

[Baker lite]

Not overly interested to be honest, we know the Dutch are stealing our lunch. I work with them a lot, easy to deal with and speak better English than many Brits

On Brexit benefits lets just focus on new opportunities that didn't exist 3 months ago....

Indeed, very well mannered the Dutch, always found them a pleasure to deal with. It is so important to retain friendships after a split.


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[daveinprague]

Not overly interested to be honest, we know the Dutch are stealing our lunch. I work with them a lot, easy to deal with and speak better English than many Brits

On Brexit benefits lets just focus on new opportunities that didn't exist 3 months ago....

Go on then, let's focus on the opportunitiies, Tell us what they are and we can talk about them.

Your previous post about EU support in the EU , from someone who has consistently spoken of the EU falling apart is pretty funny, so I'm expecting a good laugh. Talk us through these opportunities.

 

[Baker lite]

https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1372896077553270785?s=21
Born to win [emoji636]


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[Baker lite]

https://twitter.com/mary_ng/status/1372892003910959106?s=2
Go go global Britain [emoji636] [emoji1063]


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[WATFORD zero]

https://twitter.com/mary_ng/status/1372892003910959106?s=2
Go go global Britain [emoji636] [emoji1063]


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I just broke the habit of a lifetime to avoid wasting my time and actually clicked on one of your completely pointless links. The two posts that you have made above both link to the same story that Canada are going to ratify a Trade continuity agreement meaning we can continue to trade with Canada in exactly the same way as we could when we were in the EU.

So this Brexit benefit is to be able to do exactly the same as we could before Brexit

Go go global Britain Indeed

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I just broke the habit of a lifetime to avoid wasting my time and actually clicked on one of your completely pointless links. The two posts that you have made above both link to the same story that Canada are going to ratify a Trade continuity agreement meaning we can continue to trade with Canada in exactly the same way as we could when we were in the EU.

So this Brexit benefit is to be able to do exactly the same as we could before Brexit

Go go global Britain Indeed

Good news. We have stayed still and not moved backwards !

 

[Baldseagull]

Go on then, let's focus on the opportunitiies, Tell us what they are and we can talk about them.

Your previous post about EU support in the EU , from someone who has consistently spoken of the EU falling apart is pretty funny, so I'm expecting a good laugh. Talk us through these opportunities.

Think you grabbed the wrong quote.

 

[Randy McNob]

I just broke the habit of a lifetime to avoid wasting my time and actually clicked on one of your completely pointless links. The two posts that you have made above both link to the same story that Canada are going to ratify a Trade continuity agreement meaning we can continue to trade with Canada in exactly the same way as we could when we were in the EU.

So this Brexit benefit is to be able to do exactly the same as we could before Brexit

Go go global Britain Indeed

and only a few months ago said a Canada Style deal was exactly what they voted for, now they have and EU style deal with Canada

 

[daveinprague]

Think you grabbed the wrong quote.

Wouldnt respond to it anyway.

 

[nicko31]

I just broke the habit of a lifetime to avoid wasting my time and actually clicked on one of your completely pointless links. The two posts that you have made above both link to the same story that Canada are going to ratify a Trade continuity agreement meaning we can continue to trade with Canada in exactly the same way as we could when we were in the EU.

So this Brexit benefit is to be able to do exactly the same as we could before Brexit

Go go global Britain Indeed

Is there anything with a 3rd country yet that is markedly better than what the EU already have?

Does the EU have an FTA with Suriname?

 

[Baker lite]

Think you grabbed the wrong quote.

Is that a euphemism...


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[Randy McNob]

Is there anything with a 3rd country yet that is markedly better than what the EU already have?

Does the EU have an FTA with Suriname?

Probably, it's an ex Dutch colony. If you look at the Ghana trade deal, behind all the bluster, we actually agreed to abide by EU rules so effectively agreed regulatory alignment with the EU, and with Brexiters claiming victory as an independent nation. I think most of the deals done are EU in all but name

 

[WATFORD zero]

Is there anything with a 3rd country yet that is markedly better than what the EU already have?

Does the EU have an FTA with Suriname?

I don't know of any, but I know that a significant number of the EU's existing trade deals have MFN clauses preventing the other party offering better terms in any other trade deals than the terms agreed with the EU.

And of course, these Trade Continuity Agreements, like the Canada one highlighted by [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION] above, are 'rolling over' the current deal which is based on regulatory alignment with the EU, which means that 'our' new deal is governed by EU rules and regulations, as pointed out by RM above

 

[JC Footy Genius]

https://twitter.com/mary_ng/status/1372892003910959106?s=2
Go go global Britain [emoji636] [emoji1063]


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Go go global Britain indeed, ratifying that deal is most welcome and must come as a welcome surprise to all those who said it would take several years to replace the EU deals with third countries. Phase two, starting and improving on the deal beginning this year too ... [emoji636]

 

[WATFORD zero]

Go go global Britain indeed, ratifying that deal is most welcome and must come as a welcome surprise to all those who said it would take several years to replace the EU deals with third countries. Phase two, starting and improving on the deal beginning this year too ... [emoji636]

JCFG obviously didn't understand what it meant or read my post before he dived in.

Proof that timing is everything in comedy