[Politics] Brexit
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nicko31
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So Acardia and Debenhams set to go to the wall. Over twice as many jobs going as the whole of the UK fishing fleet
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
You seem a bit of a business guru.
How much to attribute Brexit to the fall of Green's empire?
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Yes but fishing gives Johnson a better photo opportunity to dress in yellow fishing gear and pose with an unfortunate denizen of the deep.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Please point out where anyone has attributed Brexit to the fall of Green's empire.
One of the effects of the two events was compared, that's all. Did you really read the post you replied to?
nicko31
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Well it hasn't helped, when the GBP crashed in 2016 this was more cost to retailers overnight that they were forced to absorb. But that wasn't the reason for my post. I was just comparing employment numbers versus fishing
The primary reason though is Green's failure to reinvent, he is a 1970's businessman trying to work in today's world. Whilst I'm no fan of Ashley he is smart and knows to move with the changing times
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Thanks for your input.
Since the job losses were mentioned in the Brexit thread, and it's all over the news, I simply wondered if the poster felt there was any connection.
Furthermore, he has kindly clarified his views.
Keep your hair on.
daveinplzen
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- Aug 31, 2018
- 2,846
Are massive job losses Unicorns, and everybody just misunderstood?
Hard to judge, as all the Brexiteers on NSC don't seem to be able to coherently list the benefits of Brexit versus the negatives.
Deals with Samoa, Serbia, Montenegro and Lichtenstein not to be sniffed at I guess
Hard to judge, as all the Brexiteers on NSC don't seem to be able to coherently list the benefits of Brexit versus the negatives.
Deals with Samoa, Serbia, Montenegro and Lichtenstein not to be sniffed at I guess
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,265
On the gov.uk website now, down the page a bit under cross-border trade:
The EU and UK will trade on WTO terms from 1 January 2021.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ireland-providing-services-after-eu-exit
The EU and UK will trade on WTO terms from 1 January 2021.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ireland-providing-services-after-eu-exit
nicko31
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Also...
From 1 January 2021, UK service providers and businesses will no longer benefit from EU Treaty Freedoms
I thought there was no benefit for business of being in the worlds largest free trading block
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,265
So is that it then? The adverts encourage you to go the gov.uk website, and when you do it says WTO terms and no EU Treaty Freedoms. In my book that's Hard Brexit, No Deal.
It's been up for a few hours now, surely this can't be a cock-up?
It's been up for a few hours now, surely this can't be a cock-up?
Garry Nelson's teacher
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Who knows with this bunch where conspiracy and cock-up coexist in perfect disharmony?
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,772
Oh yes it can. I really think people underestimate this Government's ability to cock up. I believe there are still people in Senior positions in this Government that don't understand what all this means, regardless of whether we get a deal now.
I think the few months after Jan 1st will come as much of a surprise to them as it will to the Brexit voters on here
I texted someone I know because I was led to believe there would have been an announcement by now and I wondered what had happened. I received a one word reply 'incompetence'
And I notice that no one has picked up on the fact that our new 'light touch' customs for the 'first 6 months' means that under WTO Most Favoured Nation rules, we will have to apply the same rules to goods from the rest of the world. ie If we aren't checking any standards or applying any tariffs on goods from the EU, we can't apply them to anyone else.
Taking back control in order to open our borders to everyone and everything
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nicko31
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Oh yes it can. I really think people underestimate this Government's ability to cock up. I believe there are still people in Senior positions in this Government that don't understand what all this means, regardless of whether we get a deal now.
I texted someone I know because I was led to believe there would have been an announcement by now and I wondered what had happened. I received a one word reply 'incompetence'
I think the few months after Jan 1st will come as much of a surprise to them as it will to the Brexit voters on here.
And I notice that no one has picked up on the fact that our new 'light touch' customs for the 'first 6 months' means that under WTO Most Favoured Nation rules, means that we will have to apply the same rules to goods from the rest of the world. ie If we aren't checking any standards or applying any tariffs on goods from the EU, we can't apply them to anyone else.
Taking back control in order to open our borders to everyone and everything
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Light touch was first talked about in July by Gove, then the idea was off, now its back on again
Really not sure they know what they are doing. Clearly completely unprepared.....
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,772
A number of Permanent Secretaries and Director Generals in the Civil Service have tried to advise Senior Ministers what was happening and going to happen for a long while, but they have all been moved sideways, sacked, resigned or retired (some very publicly in the last year) because they weren't 'on board' with Brexit. In some cases they've even been replaced with political appointees.
The next in line know what's going to happen but aren't ready to end their careers just yet, so are just keeping their heads down and covering their backsides (quite understandably). They all know what's going to happen, regardless of any deal now.
Allegedly
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Garry Nelson's teacher
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Latest predictions from OECD. Makes for grim reading.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...l-brexit-warns-oecd/ar-BB1bwe0S?ocid=msedgdhp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...l-brexit-warns-oecd/ar-BB1bwe0S?ocid=msedgdhp
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
A number of Permanent Secretaries and Director Generals in the Civil Service have tried to advise Senior Ministers what was happening and going to happen for a long while, but they have all been moved sideways, sacked, resigned or retired (some very publicly in the last year) because they weren't 'on board' with Brexit. In some cases they've even been replaced with political appointees.
The next in line know what's going to happen but aren't ready to end their careers just yet, so are just keeping their heads down and covering their backsides (quite understandably). They all know what's going to happen, regardless of any deal now.
Allegedly
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I hope they are keeping records and even recordings.
This Government really likes an unfortunate scapegoat to take all the blame.
nicko31
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So only one country in the G20 with a large economic clusterf**k in 2020 than us, the mighty Argentina.
And still our self imposed economic trade sanctions still follow.
Maybe we are right to screw the third world with our aid cut...
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,772
I wouldn't worry, these are the very senior people who can look after themselves and, even if the worst happened, they wouldn't exactly be struggling.
Unfortunately, there are a far more significant number of people who aren't in that position and are really going to suffer (even if a majority of them did vote for it)
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