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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Randy McNob

> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
Jun 13, 2020
4,724
Hi Randy/Clampy/Nibble/Watford/xw*nker ... sorry the onus is on you to set out a believable scenario where the EU heads in a more UK centric direction?

Well being part of a Union you have to accept what is for the greater good for everyone for it to succeed. It's critic's only looked what the UK gets out of it individually. Most of the criticisms about the EU and UK being part of it have been shown to be flawed and negative bias from right wing media. The UK has plenty of power and influence in the EU and can veto decisions, which they won't have in any future arrangement with the EU.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Well being part of a Union you have to accept what is for the greater good for everyone for it to succeed. It's critic's only looked what the UK gets out of it individually. Most of the criticisms about the EU and UK being part of it have been shown to be flawed and negative bias from right wing media. The UK has plenty of power and influence in the EU and can veto decisions, which they won't have in any future arrangement with the EU.

Well there we are. A measured and calm response to the opening question, devoid of name-calling and insults. It will be interesting to see how JCFG responds.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Well being part of a Union you have to accept what is for the greater good for everyone for it to succeed. It's critic's only looked what the UK gets out of it individually. Most of the criticisms about the EU and UK being part of it have been shown to be flawed and negative bias from right wing media. The UK has plenty of power and influence in the EU and can veto decisions, which they won't have in any future arrangement with the EU.

Thanks for at least trying to answer the question, the critics could see the direction of travel (ever closer union). The rest of your analysis is woefully flawed. Once again I ask the non-Europhiles how do we steer the Eu in a direction more to our liking in a non-Europhile/Unicorn direction?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Well there we are. A measured and calm response to the opening question, devoid of name-calling and insults. It will be interesting to see how JCFG responds.

Interesting indeed, perhaps you could set out a path that meant less EU/ever closer union while remaining in the EU ... unicorn membership not an option obvs. I'm all ears ...
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,767
Interesting indeed, perhaps you could set out a path that meant less EU/ever closer union while remaining in the EU ... unicorn membership not an option obvs. I'm all ears ...

I really really think you should have a bit of a break from NSC and maybe some sleep. The amount of time you have spent on here over the last few days under your various guises really isn't healthy.

Step away from the keyboard and we'll catch up tomorrow :thumbsup:
 






JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I really really think you should have a bit of a break from NSC and maybe some sleep. The amount of time you have spent on here over the last few days under your various guises really isn't healthy.

Step away from the keyboard and we'll catch up tomorrow :thumbsup:

I know answering questions isn't your thing/above your cognitive ability but have a go .... Once again I ask the non-Europhiles how do we steer the Eu in a direction more to our liking in a non-Europhile/Unicorn direction?
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Who has Jewish blood & family. I see as the car crash gets closer, people like you get more ridiculous. Thanks, it's entertaiming.

The fact you think that's a defence is even more embarrassing/shameful for you ... if you were a current member of the Labour party you would be expelled and ridiculed ... rightly so. Rest assured your ancestors would be far less relaxed about facilitating antisemitism.
 


daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
The fact you think that's a defence is even more embarrassing/shameful for you ... if you were a current member of the Labour party you would be expelled and ridiculed ... rightly so. Rest assured your ancestors would be far less relaxed about facilitating antisemitism.

The fact of the matter is, I don't believe you have any interest in Anti Semitsm other than a tool to attack the Labour Party
How many instances were there that re solely related to attacking the faith?

Youre just a little tight winger, and there's ample evidence of right wingers views of the Jewish faith, or generally anybody foreign.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,168
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
I think for the likes of Footy Genius this must be a 'Hitler's Bunker' moment. It's all over. Just blame everyone and everything else - attack all and sundry, blame 5th columnists, intellectuals, or just claim that communist emancipation was exactly what people voted for in 1933/deal 2020 etc. I get it.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I know answering questions isn't your thing/above your cognitive ability but have a go .... Once again I ask the non-Europhiles how do we steer the Eu in a direction more to our liking in a non-Europhile/Unicorn direction?


I suspect that your definition of a non-Europhile is most people's definition of a very cross Farage-leaning Europhobe and as most of those got banned, exploded, disappeared, lost interest or ran out of jokey one liners and gratuitous insults months ago I don't think you're going to get much of a response. But let's wait and see.
 


Randy McNob

> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
Jun 13, 2020
4,724
I suspect that your definition of a non-Europhile is most people's definition of a very cross Farage-leaning Europhobe and as most of those got banned, exploded, disappeared, lost interest or ran out of jokey one liners and gratuitous insults months ago I don't think you're going to get much of a response. But let's wait and see.

If youŕe looking for remainers who were eurosceptics, do such people still exist? All the euroscepticism pre referendum has been exposed as myth, lies and nonsense and I would say their support for the EU has hardened. As the graph shows support for EU has never been stronger
 






birthofanorange

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 31, 2011
6,499
David Gilmour's armpit
P.S what is it with Gammony morons trying to get themselves banned of late? Some kind of collective, lockdown hysteria? Don’t get me wrong, a moron cull would be most welcome on here but I’m embarrassed for them. Cringe.


If they're banned, they have a ready-made reason to avoid any (further) awkward questions about the way things are going. All mouth, no trousers, that lot.
 


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
The fact you think that's a defence is even more embarrassing/shameful for you ... if you were a current member of the Labour party you would be expelled and ridiculed ... rightly so. Rest assured your ancestors would be far less relaxed about facilitating antisemitism.

That's a really offensive post, appalling English aside.

Not sure if it's been pointed out before (probably) but your signature line makes no sense. Socialism and capitalism are the way that nearly all civilised societies operate. Both of them, together. I think you might mean "communism" instead of socialism. It's a basic mistake that lots of uneducated people make. But to have it branded on every post you make looks a little silly to say the least.

Go get some sleep and stop shouting at people on the internet. It's unseemly.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
That's a really offensive post, appalling English aside.

Not sure if it's been pointed out before (probably) but your signature line makes no sense. Socialism and capitalism are the way that nearly all civilised societies operate. Both of them, together. I think you might mean "communism" instead of socialism. It's a basic mistake that lots of uneducated people make. But to have it branded on every post you make looks a little silly to say the least.

Go get some sleep and stop shouting at people on the internet. It's unseemly.

You may be unaware that Dave in denial has spent several months claiming the Labour party has no specific problems with antisemitism despite the Labour party itself admitting they do. You would think personal testimony from numerous Labour Jewish and non-Jewish members plus of course a Jewish female (now ex) Labour MP needing additional Police protection at a Labour party conference might be a clue but there you go. Having Jewish heritage is no defence when appeasing antisemitism, unfortunately, there are quite a few on NSC who share his view.

I'm sure Winston Churchill would have been deeply hurt that you believe his 'uneducated' statement makes no sense.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I suspect that your definition of a non-Europhile is most people's definition of a very cross Farage-leaning Europhobe and as most of those got banned, exploded, disappeared, lost interest or ran out of jokey one liners and gratuitous insults months ago I don't think you're going to get much of a response. But let's wait and see.

I doubt many remainers voted remain with much enthusiasm or belief that the EU was as wonderful as the Europhiles on here portray yet many hoped for significant change but never explain how this would be achieved. (eg 48% of Remain voters dislike freedom of movement). Nearly 115,000 replies on this thread and still no credible reply so I won't hold my breath.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/br...ts-back-end-of-eu-freedom-of-movement-1848372
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,767
I doubt many remainers voted remain with much enthusiasm or belief that the EU was as wonderful as the Europhiles on here portray yet many hoped for significant change but never explain how this would be achieved. (eg 48% of Remain voters dislike freedom of movement). Nearly 115,000 replies on this thread and still no credible reply so I won't hold my breath.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/br...ts-back-end-of-eu-freedom-of-movement-1848372

Thinking about it, maybe I should feel honoured that you have got so upset by having your arguments taken apart on a Brexit thread, that you went to the trouble of setting up a second account and running it for three years desperately trying to make sure nobody would realise it was you. All this, just so that you could give a thumbs up and a 'humorous' one-liner on every post I made on this thread, normally within seconds of me making the post.

Trouble is that I don't feel 'honoured', I feel that it's just weird and more than a little disturbed. It does make me wonder how many other accounts on this thread are really you ???

Oh well, each to their own, and if it kept you busy, amused, out of trouble and off the streets, I don't have any real problems with it :shrug:

(PS Can you do me a favour and give a message to [MENTION=35196]Is it PotG?[/MENTION] You missed giving me thumbs up on lots of my posts every time you have got angry over the last couple of weeks. Any chance you could go back and fix these, Thanks :thumbsup:)
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,537
Deepest, darkest Sussex
P.S what is it with Gammony morons trying to get themselves banned of late? Some kind of collective, lockdown hysteria? Don’t get me wrong, a moron cull would be most welcome on here but I’m embarrassed for them. Cringe.

Maybe they're all trying to avoid the inevitable embarrassment in January when the horse they've ridden for so long turns out to be more of an arthritic mule which gives way under them?
 


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