[Politics] Brexit

[Pretty pink fairy]

The sad thing is, it's thick racists like you that will suffer the most in Brexit Britain. I'll be okay personally, I have the intelligence to adapt and flourish. It's dumb motheruckers like you that will lose out. And you voted for it.

as i said
regards
DR

 

[Berty23]

I decided to Leave before any of the campaigning even started.

Fair enough. Many didn't.

 

[Brighton Mod]

I thought that they needed us more than we needed them. Surely if our trade is more important to them than their's is to us then this matters more to them. Or are we pretending that they care about 50 billion is all that matters to an economy worth 17 trillion.

So to make this visual.
50,000,000,000 is more important than protecting
17,000,000,000,000,

Do you see now how 50 billion as a one off is actually sod all?

To make that more understandable to people like us used to normal numbers we simply remove 9 zeros.

So 50 quid compared to 17,000 quid.

Can someone check my maths there? Pretty clear who needs who more isn't it?

Its clear now, I din't realise that after Brexit we would completely stop trading with the EU, so that our export figures to this area would be zero. OMG, nobody will be able to fly on Air France, Lufthansa, Al Italia, Norwegian and we won't be able to go on holiday to Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and no long weekends to Prague, Amsterdam and Cologne. No minis, land rovers or Rolls Royce sold into the EU, no telecoms sales, no Sky Television in Europe. Remainers forecasts on Britain after Brexit are just ridiculous, the above figures are an absolute non sense based on the perception that we will cease trading with the EU altogether. Its desperate arguements like the aforementioned that make the debate such a farce.

 

[Hampster Gull]

No the EU are worried about the lump sum they are going to get. They don't give a toss about anything else.

You are wrong. They care about keeping the remaining countries in the EU, that no one follows us. Why, lots of reasons, greater prosperity, peace, politics. The money is secondary, we will pay for sure to send a signal. We knew that.

But prominent Brexitears argued that they needed us more than we needed them, that we imported more than we exported, that the Germans car manufacturers and Italian proseco sellers would force their governments, that France and the Netherlands would quickly follow us out and the Eu would collapse, etc. What do we have? Farage lives in New York, the Tory leavers are making a clowns of the U.K. in the negotiations (on purpose?) and so on.

 

[Berty23]

Its clear now, I din't realise that after Brexit we would completely stop trading with the EU, so that our export figures to this area would be zero. OMG, nobody will be able to fly on Air France, Lufthansa, Al Italia, Norwegian and we won't be able to go on holiday to Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and no long weekends to Prague, Amsterdam and Cologne. No minis, land rovers or Rolls Royce sold into the EU, no telecoms sales, no Sky Television in Europe. Remainers forecasts on Britain after Brexit are just ridiculous, the above figures are an absolute non sense based on the perception that we will cease trading with the EU altogether. Its desperate arguements like the aforementioned that make the debate such a farce.

What on earth are you going on about? I posted those numbers to show that the argument that all the EU care about is getting 50 billion. My point is that 50 billion is relative small change. The wider point is that if they lost trade with us it would be inconvenient and hit people on the pocket. If we lost trade with EU then we go broke. This is why they hold the aces in negotiations. No matter how many pretend this isn't the case.

 

[portslade seagull]

You are wrong. They care about keeping the remaining countries in the EU, that no one follows us. Why, lots of reasons, greater prosperity, peace, politics. The money is secondary, we will pay for sure to send a signal. We knew that.

But prominent Brexitears argued that they needed us more than we needed them, that we imported more than we exported, that the Germans car manufacturers and Italian proseco sellers would force their governments, that France and the Netherlands would quickly follow us out and the Eu would collapse, etc. What do we have? Farage lives in New York, the Tory leavers are making a clowns of the U.K. in the negotiations (on purpose?) and so on.

How long does the German military give the EU in its present format, another 20yrs before it breaks up according to them. Hardly confidence building

 

[portslade seagull]

What on earth are you going on about? I posted those numbers to show that the argument that all the EU care about is getting 50 billion. My point is that 50 billion is relative small change. The wider point is that if they lost trade with us it would be inconvenient and hit people on the pocket. If we lost trade with EU then we go broke. This is why they hold the aces in negotiations. No matter how many pretend this isn't the case.

Rubbish and you know it, but I suppose if you keep spouting it some might believe you

 

[Hampster Gull]

How long does the German military give the EU in its present format, another 20yrs before it breaks up according to them. Hardly confidence building

If I understood what you were saying I suspect I would try and disagree with it

 

[Hampster Gull]

Another leading Tory Brexitear is sacked for incompetence.

 

[sir albion]

What on earth are you going on about? I posted those numbers to show that the argument that all the EU care about is getting 50 billion. My point is that 50 billion is relative small change. The wider point is that if they lost trade with us it would be inconvenient and hit people on the pocket. If we lost trade with EU then we go broke. This is why they hold the aces in negotiations. No matter how many pretend this isn't the case.

The whole purpose is that many of us don't like an organisation that controls bloody everything and they will want more and more just like the £2 billion fine for a prosperous economy!!
It's a union with mostly poor countries in it and these countries need funding and bailing out...This was the purpose of the EU to make Europe as even as possible and to flood the big economies with Labour.

The EU will always be anti British and frankly we don't belong in it for numerous reasons.

The EU is a glorified middle man that takes and distributes and pays it's overpopulated staff £2 billion a year.

Good riddance

 

[pastafarian]

I never said all Brexit voters were Tory.

And i never said you did say that

Saw this on twitter.
.

Stop relying on twitter so much to fabricate your Brexit opinions.......simples.

 

[Berty23]

Rubbish and you know it, but I suppose if you keep spouting it some might believe you

What part is rubbish? Do you think we hold the upper hand?

 

[Berty23]

And i never said you did say that




Stop relying on twitter so much to fabricate your Brexit opinions.......simples.

Lol. I have plenty of sources thanks but Twitter is excellent if you follow both sides of the debate. One side (if you ignore the bots which you can do) are scrambling around for evidence while the other can draw on robust sources. I know which I believe. I wish I could bury my head in the sand and pretend all is great but I can't.

 

[pastafarian]

If we lost trade with EU then we go broke. This is why they hold the aces in negotiations. No matter how many pretend this isn't the case.

Since you seem to know the figures perhaps you can share, what % of EU trade would we need to lose to make UK plc go broke? What are the chances of losing that % of EU trade?

 

[pastafarian]

Lol. I have plenty of sources thanks but Twitter is excellent if you follow both sides of the debate. One side (if you ignore the bots which you can do) are scrambling around for evidence while the other can draw on robust sources. I know which I believe. I wish I could bury my head in the sand and pretend all is great but I can't.

Take your head out of your arse then, you stand a far better chance of burying it in the sand if you do.

 

[drew]

Its clear now, I din't realise that after Brexit we would completely stop trading with the EU, so that our export figures to this area would be zero. OMG, nobody will be able to fly on Air France, Lufthansa, Al Italia, Norwegian and we won't be able to go on holiday to Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and no long weekends to Prague, Amsterdam and Cologne. No minis, land rovers or Rolls Royce sold into the EU, no telecoms sales, no Sky Television in Europe. Remainers forecasts on Britain after Brexit are just ridiculous, the above figures are an absolute non sense based on the perception that we will cease trading with the EU altogether. Its desperate arguements like the aforementioned that make the debate such a farce.

Minis = Owned by BMW
Rolls Royce = Owned by Volkswagen
Land Rover = Owned by Tata Motors

 

[5ways]

Since you seem to know the figures perhaps you can share, what % of EU trade would we need to lose to make UK plc go broke? What are the chances of losing that % of EU trade?

We are already broke

 

[jaghebby]

I have mostly given up reading the nauseating drivel spouted on here usually by loony brexiteers! So from that opening statement you should be able to work out where I think the best future for this great country lies! However, I was wondering in the history of NSC where does this thread currently lie in terms of length of pages of posts? And what are the odds on it getting to 5000 or 10,000 pages??

 

[GT49er]

Lol. I have plenty of sources thanks but Twitter is excellent if you follow both sides of the debate. One side (if you ignore the bots which you can do) are scrambling around for evidence while the other can draw on robust sources. I know which I believe. I wish I could bury my head in the sand and pretend all is great but I can't.

Would you like some help?

 

[Baldseagull]

The whole purpose is that many of us don't like an organisation that controls bloody everything and they will want more and more just like the £2 billion fine for a prosperous economy!!
It's a union with mostly poor countries in it and these countries need funding and bailing out...This was the purpose of the EU to make Europe as even as possible and to flood the big economies with Labour.

The EU will always be anti British and frankly we don't belong in it for numerous reasons.

The EU is a glorified middle man that takes and distributes and pays it's overpopulated staff £2 billion a year.

Good riddance

It is a shame that you see it that way. Do you also think it wrong for the UK government to incentivise business to set up production facilities in poorer areas of the UK, using money raised from taxes in London?