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[Politics] Brexit
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Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Royal Navy are quite good at losing things,like ipods,assault boats,etc,so maybe they have let some Iranians confiscate the planes.Alternatively,they could still be at the training airfields in the USA,with their Fleet Air Arm pilots.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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Oooops we have a friendly fire incident. Blue on Blue, are you American?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Obviously, they're Stealth fighters ...
Wish I'd thought of that one.Top bombing!
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I don't know any leave voter who thought staying in the Customs Union, Single - internal market, keeping ECJ primacy, freedom of movement for up to four years after 2019 .. possibly longer is in any way leaving the EU.
Bit of a dangerous gamble for JC, looks like he's giving in to pressure from Blairites
I know plenty of leave voters who don't give a sh*t anymore - we're leaving The EU - it's done. Their pre-referendum concerns are still there but concerns over ECJ jurisdiction in regards to Euratom? It's done. Brexit's happening and the problems within this country aren't going to be solved by it or arguing over whether a transitional deal lasts x years or y years.
Not really a risk by Corbyn in my opinion. The Tories are totally boxed in, Labour aren't. The Tories proceed as they are. What's the worry? If The Tories do end up in it to their necks and drowning, there is a way out - just a humiliating climb-down if so. The Tories have taken that path - and there are plenty within The Conservative Party who are not happy with that route and stance - but that course is set. Labour have set their stance, but nothing more - they're in opposition. It's a long way from May's position though and her majority looks more fragile this evening. Ultimately let The Tories get on with it though, Brexit's their bag - as I said to you before - never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - as a fat Corsican once said.
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ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Royal Navy are quite good at losing things,like ipods,assault boats,etc,so maybe they have let some Iranians confiscate the planes.Alternatively,they could still be at the training airfields in the USA,with their Fleet Air Arm pilots.
Okay. So long as The Revolutionary Guard haven't gone on a confiscate ipod purge again. I suppose an open deck like that, free of planes, leaves more space for blonde mothers to smoke a fag too.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
You know it makes sense.No planes,no high octane fuels/oils to worry about.Smoking light is lit.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I know. I agree. I was being sarcastic.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I appreciate you served and I'm a mere civilian, but while we're on the subject, I must say that HMS Cornwall business felt to me a bit like going 1-0 down to San Marino.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
More like 1-0 down to Tristan da Cuhna,not their finest hour.Felt sorry for the kids.They had probably been sent out with blank ammunition,so there was no chance of upsetting somebody.Wouldn't have happened in Nelson's day.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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You may well do but this https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/...ted-on-backing?utm_term=.rbd2BY6PA#.ewnKaxyl3 poll showed a vast majority of Leavers and a substatntial proportion of Remainers are more in tune with people I know and would not be happy with Corbyn's cynical party before country u turn position.
If the enemy are busy making mistakes doomed to defeat why bother to change the Labour make it up as you go along/cake and eat it stratergy?
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
As I said yesterday, I'm sure you could produce a poll or an article to back a point and you did. I'll go with Brexit voters I know and know of - they're not bothered about Brexit anymore - it's done. That's my general take on it too, there'll be some murmurings, and hysterical headlines and some polls and some experts saying this and that, but it'll blow over. I could well be wrong though. At the end of the day, if this move does damage Labour - fine. It damages The Tories too though - they love a good in-fight over Europe - it's what they do best.
I wouldn't call it a cynical party before country u-turn by Labour though, but I do know you take a keen interest in The Labour Party as well - they're in opposition ultimately and have put forward an alternative, honest and realistic position and aim on what a transitional deal will entail, that we will need and what it will actually mean. As for having cake and eating it - The Tories are the one who've said FOM ends in 2019, there will be a transitional deal and that deal will end in 2022 - transitional deal with no FOM presumably which all ends conveniently in 2022 neatly before the next scheduled UK general election and presumably ECJ jurisdiction ends too - All sounds great, I'm sure The EU will happily and easily agree to all that too and I'm sure it will all happen and everyone loves The Tories, so what's the problem?
If not, and it goes belly up and an early election happens - Labour have merely suggested an alternative and more pragmatic, honest way to Paul Dacre's.
As I said yesterday, I suspect down the the road as this all unfolds and plays out there are many Conservative MP's, as well as those of other parties, who'll prefer this stance to The Tories current one. Obviously not The DUP though, because they're bought and paid for till 2019, Jeremy Corbyn was in The IRA and Diane Abbott.....well Diane Abbott. Diane Abbott. Diane Abbott. Diane Abbott. Diane Abbott.........................................
Nothing to worry about though is there? Everyone loves The Tories and Brexit will probably be fine because David Davis said so.
Hmmmm......Anna Soubry though (and I'm not talking after 6 pints either)....How many like-minded friends and colleagues in The Conservative Party, Scottish or otherwise, has she got do you reckon?
He realised he was wrong and in an open and honest manner now seeks to do what he feels is now best. Change your mind, prove you have one. Contrast this with the Tory party who judged the mood of the nation incorrectly but in a selfish and vain manner Theresa May plods on when she should have done the decent and honest thing and stood down.
Starmer hasn't changed his mind, he never had any intention of supporting the leavers. Everything he has said or written supports that. Strangely enough though, Labour's clarification of their position now makes it more likely that May could resign around the time of the Tory conference. This would allow a new leader to perhaps call an election in 2018/19 and fight Corbyn's complete lack of leadership.
Hmmmmmm. I seem to recall hearing this idea at the last election as well.
daveinprague
New member
Is that like the sort of task force that liberated the Falklands?
We did, but this time he's running with a plan that we all know he doesn't support. He's let Starmer get away with his own views and cast away his own anti-EU beliefs. This will cost Labour in the long run.
Why will it?
That's one take. Another is that he now realises what a disaster driving the UK's economy off a cliff-edge will be. I fully expect more people to get on board as the May drives the nation closer to the edge. You'll thank the true patriots like me
