[Politics] Brexit

[vegster]

I have no dislike or hatred for those who voted for Brexit. They genuinely believe(d) they were making the right choice for Britain, however misguided it may seem to those who voted the other way.

However, I like to think there’s a special circle of hell reserved for the type of politician who appeals to the worst part of us, gives those feelings a veneer of reasonableness, offers no viable alternative to the status quo, but persuades people to vote for a concept based on fear/mistrust of others. They are the true Project Fear.

We are a nation with a high proportion of jobs in the service sector, we are also a nation with a low birth rate and an aging population.

We need immigration to enable our businesses to thrive, and we need access to our largest trading partner (the EU bloc) because that’s who we’re geographically adjacent to, nothing is going to change that.

The alternative, as I’ve written elsewhere, is a high tax economy with huge incentives for those choosing to become parents to raise the birth rate, a world class education system to educate those with aptitude (we need skilled workers too) and a highly efficient healthcare system to ensure that those children and their parents are fit and able to work. Anyone promising the end of immigration and a low tax economy is telling you lies.

I feel genuine pity for anyone who has fallen under Farage’s spell, and the best thing that could happen to British politics is for him to crawl back under the rock he slid out from.

As a nation, we have effectively committed economic suicide. Those that thought leaving the EU would propel the country to greatness have, in fact, accelerated our decline.

 

[Eric the meek]

I have no dislike or hatred for those who voted for Brexit. They genuinely believe(d) they were making the right choice for Britain, however misguided it may seem to those who voted the other way.

However, I like to think there’s a special circle of hell reserved for the type of politician who appeals to the worst part of us, gives those feelings a veneer of reasonableness, offers no viable alternative to the status quo, but persuades people to vote for a concept based on fear/mistrust of others. They are the true Project Fear.

We are a nation with a high proportion of jobs in the service sector, we are also a nation with a low birth rate and an aging population.

We need immigration to enable our businesses to thrive, and we need access to our largest trading partner (the EU bloc) because that’s who we’re geographically adjacent to, nothing is going to change that.

The alternative, as I’ve written elsewhere, is a high tax economy with huge incentives for those choosing to become parents to raise the birth rate, a world class education system to educate those with aptitude (we need skilled workers too) and a highly efficient healthcare system to ensure that those children and their parents are fit and able to work. Anyone promising the end of immigration and a low tax economy is telling you lies.

I feel genuine pity for anyone who has fallen under Farage’s spell, and the best thing that could happen to British politics is for him to crawl back under the rock he slid out from.

I've highlighted that sentence in case it got lost in your comment.

It is a very good observation.

 

[Horses Arse]

It's been a while but I've found a benefit from Brexit. Quite exciting to have unearthed it (if true).

It seems that if you get caught (but not stopped and issued a ticket) for speeding in Europe there is no longer an agreement to provide names/addresses for the fine to be sent through to.

That is taking back power (ignoring that this means loads of loony fast drivers from them over there when they come over here)

 

[Is it PotG?]

It's been a while but I've found a benefit from Brexit. Quite exciting to have unearthed it (if true).

It seems that if you get caught (but not stopped and issued a ticket) for speeding in Europe there is no longer an agreement to provide names/addresses for the fine to be sent through to.

That is taking back power (ignoring that this means loads of loony fast drivers from them over there when they come over here)

Every cloud and all that......

 

[Baldseagull]

It's been a while but I've found a benefit from Brexit. Quite exciting to have unearthed it (if true).

It seems that if you get caught (but not stopped and issued a ticket) for speeding in Europe there is no longer an agreement to provide names/addresses for the fine to be sent through to.

That is taking back power (ignoring that this means loads of loony fast drivers from them over there when they come over here)

That will be of interest to the several hundred Brits in sports cars travelling to Le Mans soon.

 

[Horses Arse]

That will be of interest to the several hundred Brits in sports cars travelling to Le Mans soon.

Well if any of them believed in Brexit they're bound to believe I'm right!

 

[Blues Guitarist]

It's been a while but I've found a benefit from Brexit. Quite exciting to have unearthed it (if true).

It seems that if you get caught (but not stopped and issued a ticket) for speeding in Europe there is no longer an agreement to provide names/addresses for the fine to be sent through to.

That is taking back power (ignoring that this means loads of loony fast drivers from them over there when they come over here)

I know someone who was caught by a speed camera in Austria a year ago, and received a fine at their UK address.

So this sounds like another Brexit benefit that doesn't actually exist.

 

[A1X]

That will be of interest to the several hundred Brits in sports cars travelling to Le Mans soon.

Surely if they were true Brexit types they’d shun this foreign racing and only watch the national lawnmower one at Wisborough Green?

 

[cunning fergus]

As a nation, we have effectively committed economic suicide. Those that thought leaving the EU would propel the country to greatness have, in fact, accelerated our decline.

News of this accelerating decline hasn’t spread to the legions of brain surgeons and civil engineers leaving the ambrosia soaked environs of EU to come here?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/28/channel-migrants-refuse-french-navy-rescue-can-come-uk/

Maybe they are simpletons after all………….

 

[WATFORD zero]

News of this accelerating decline hasn’t spread to the legions of brain surgeons and civil engineers leaving the ambrosia soaked environs of EU to come here?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/28/channel-migrants-refuse-french-navy-rescue-can-come-uk/

Maybe they are simpletons after all………….

As is often the case, the detail of the only eye witness report completely contradicts the headline made up by the editor. Some publications do this to suck in the terminally naïve or, maybe in a vernacular you are more familiar with, 'simpletons'.

The incident, at 6.45am yesterday morning, was seen by passengers on a Channel ferry including British trucker Martin Cassidy who said: “The dinghy was very low in the water and the migrants were firing flares asking to be rescued. "I looked out of the window and saw this tiny orange boat. You could tell it was a migrant dinghy. They were about two miles from the coast of Britain. It was a very cold night, the water was quite choppy, so they must have been getting very wet. "The ferry kept a safe distance from the dingy but kept circling until a coastguard helicopter came over and then we saw two coastguard boats coming out of the port of Dover.”

These sort of things are better off posted with all the other crap here. This is the Brexit thread about the impact and trying to find ways around the current clusterf*** that Farage, Johnson, JRM and co convinced you and millions of other to vote for.

Hope this helps

 

[Fungus]

News of this accelerating decline hasn’t spread to the legions of brain surgeons and civil engineers leaving the ambrosia soaked environs of EU to come here?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/28/channel-migrants-refuse-french-navy-rescue-can-come-uk/

Maybe they are simpletons after all………….

That’s from 2019, not sure what your point is?

 

[rogersix]

No, what I am saying is that a lot of people have been panning Brexit in part because immigration had fallen. Now they can be pleased.

The problem I have with Labour is that they want the same sort of policies that has lead us into this position now. Higher taxes, anti-competitive regulation, more spending. They don't want to compete with the EU, they want to be in it, and if they can't be in it they will just sit down and cry about it. "Make the best of things" is not a modern motto.

Starmer shows his true colours with his idea of making it compulsory for employers to work from home. I presume he only means office workers - he gives no evidence of being aware there is any other sort - because I doubt the man who fitted my new boiler, for example, could have done a good job from home. But it's all one with the mass immigration that he and you favour - its purpose is to drive down the wages of the manual labourer and poorer paid worker to give a more comfortable life to the better off.

i don't think that you will ever understand this

 

[Hugo Rune]

It's been a while but I've found a benefit from Brexit. Quite exciting to have unearthed it (if true).

It seems that if you get caught (but not stopped and issued a ticket) for speeding in Europe there is no longer an agreement to provide names/addresses for the fine to be sent through to.

That is taking back power (ignoring that this means loads of loony fast drivers from them over there when they come over here)

When did this happen? My mother in law got a speeding ticket last year. Is it quite recent?

 

[rogersix]

News of this accelerating decline hasn’t spread to the legions of brain surgeons and civil engineers leaving the ambrosia soaked environs of EU to come here?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/28/channel-migrants-refuse-french-navy-rescue-can-come-uk/

Maybe they are simpletons after all………….

it's a long way down from your horse

 

[Lever]

It is genuinely difficult to keep up with the fallout of Brexit.

 

[Horses Arse]

When did this happen? My mother in law got a speeding ticket last year. Is it quite recent?

I was reading up on it after driving to Czech Republic in april. Really confusing and changing speed limits through Germany and was sure I'd screwed up. Checked on line re timescales etc and read what I posted. Agreement to exchange details no longer valid apparently.

Not sure I'd like to rely on that though

 

[Hugo Rune]

I was reading up on it after driving to Czech Republic in april. Really confusing and changing speed limits through Germany and was sure I'd screwed up. Checked on line re timescales etc and read what I posted. Agreement to exchange details no longer valid apparently.

Not sure I'd like to rely on that though

Well, it is indeed a genuine good outcome of Brexit for me.

 

[A1X]

 

[The Clamp]

News of this accelerating decline hasn’t spread to the legions of brain surgeons and civil engineers leaving the ambrosia soaked environs of EU to come here?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/28/channel-migrants-refuse-french-navy-rescue-can-come-uk/

Maybe they are simpletons after all………….

Seems a rather “we think this is what must have happened” story.

No confirmation of emergency calls. A British trucker who was gazing from a ferry as he wheezed on a roll up seem to be their corroboration here

 

[oneillco]

It is genuinely difficult to keep up with the fallout of Brexit.

Really worth watching this if you want to understand the current state of the "United" Kingdom. It illustrates so clearly how supposed British nationalists completely misunderstood what they were doing with their leave vote. Medium term the union with N.Ireland is going to collapse, and this could tip the balance in Scotland also. The UK could well be down to just England and Wales within 30 years.