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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Herr Tubthumper

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Why, what have you done ?

Just between the two of us :wink:
:smile: I can assure you I wouldn’t do anything which would risk myself being deported to the U.K.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Was expecting a response from the woke collective and, as a fellow wokey, agree although I'd add that they're not necessarily a result of Brexit.
In terms of staffing, you just get them from outside the EU (you'll find that the past year has had the highest immigration on record)
In terms of money, it can still be spent on the NHS despite Brexit -- irrespective of whether the pie is smaller (you just need to raise more money elsewhere) . Our government continues to choose not to.
 




The Clamp

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West is BEST
 


The Clamp

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West is BEST
 




WATFORD zero

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Was expecting a response from the woke collective and, as a fellow wokey, agree although I'd add that they're not necessarily a result of Brexit.
In terms of staffing, you just get them from outside the EU (you'll find that the past year has had the highest immigration on record)
In terms of money, it can still be spent on the NHS despite Brexit -- irrespective of whether the pie is smaller (you just need to raise more money elsewhere) . Our government continues to choose not to.
I'm not disagreeing or entering into discussion with anything you say, but this is the thread you are looking for https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/threads/tory-meltdown-finally-arrived-was-incoming.391773/

This is a thread which is, and has been for the last 6 years, about the pure, absolute and complete stupidity of Brexit completely regardless of any political affliction or preference (y)
 
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Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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Indeed, exactly as predicted throughout this thread, despite all the claims of our Unionist Brexiteer friends on here :facepalm:

NHS trusts recruit from ‘red list’ countries to make up for Brexit loss of EU staff​

NHS trusts in England have increased recruitment from low-income “red list” countries to make up for the post-Brexit loss of EU staff, despite a code of practice to safeguard health services in those developing countries. A report by the Nuffield Trust thinktank also identified shortages in vital specialist areas since Brexit, including dentistry, cardiothoracic surgery and anaesthesiology.

The report says that since 2021, the Northern Ireland protocol obliging EU trade rules to be followed in the region has led to a different set of medicines being available compared with the rest of the UK. Of the 597 products specifically approved by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency since Brexit, “only eight were also approved for Northern Ireland under the same name and company”.


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-from-red-list-countries-brexit-eu-staff-loss

Shirley only a total moron would still be singing it's praises and giving 'Ironic thumbs' :dunce:
'There's none so blind as those who refuse to see'..... but I think the 'ironic thumbs' is just a weak gesture of defiance.....
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Why, what have you done ?

Just between the two of us :wink:
As an aside. To protect us from a potential hard Brexit (and no agreement on settled people) we were proactively sent a letter and invited to apply to the ausländerbehörde for a live/work in-perpetuity visa years in advance of 2021. The whole process from start to end was 45 minutes.…30 of those were sat waiting for them to return my passport with my new visa. All my paperwork is in place!
 




WATFORD zero

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'There's none so blind as those who refuse to see'..... but I think the 'ironic thumbs' is just a weak gesture of defiance.....
Interesting that you use the word 'weak' rather than 'pathetic', 'childish', or 'desperate' but I think we are on the same page :wink:
 


Herr Tubthumper

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'There's none so blind as those who refuse to see'..... but I think the 'ironic thumbs' is just a weak gesture of defiance.....
I hadn’t thought about the fact Great Britain and NI will have different medicine agencies. What a mess.
 


WATFORD zero

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As an aside. To protect us from a potential hard Brexit (and no agreement on settled people) we were proactively sent a letter and invited to apply to the ausländerbehörde for a live/work in-perpetuity visa years in advance of 2021. The whole process from start to end was 45 minutes.…30 of those were sat waiting for them to return my passport with my new visa. All my paperwork is in place!
Does that come with chips ?

I'm looking at skiing this year and I can hear that Austrian 4 types of meat with every meal thing calling despite being a woke, snowflake, vegetarian, liberal sort :wink:
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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As an aside. To protect us from a potential hard Brexit (and no agreement on settled people) we were proactively sent a letter and invited to apply to the ausländerbehörde for a live/work in-perpetuity visa years in advance of 2021. The whole process from start to end was 45 minutes.…30 of those were sat waiting for them to return my passport with my new visa. All my paperwork is in place!
Surely the phrase is "My papers are in order"
 


Wokeworrier

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Aug 7, 2021
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Can I throw a spanner in the woke agreement on these pages? I'm not entirely sure it is Brexit that has caused the current crisis in the NHS. That is the result of 13 years of Tory austerity, alongside what keeps them in power (their singular pursuit of it, the press, FPTP, 'the establishment', ...).

Blasphemer! You now have to believe absolutely everything (recession/inflation/cost of living crisis etc) is caused by Brexit as it justifies spending 6+ years spouting project fear bollox on this thread!
 


Baldseagull

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Was expecting a response from the woke collective and, as a fellow wokey, agree although I'd add that they're not necessarily a result of Brexit.
In terms of staffing, you just get them from outside the EU (you'll find that the past year has had the highest immigration on record)
In terms of money, it can still be spent on the NHS despite Brexit -- irrespective of whether the pie is smaller (you just need to raise more money elsewhere) . Our government continues to choose not to.
On the one point of just getting them from outside the EU, we already did that, but there is an added cost to recruiting from outside the EU, or even inside the EU now, as opposed to recruiting from the EU when we were members. Estimated to cost almost £17,000 per overseas nurse currently.
 




rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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Blasphemer! You now have to believe absolutely everything (recession/inflation/cost of living crisis etc) is caused by Brexit as it justifies spending 6+ years spouting project fear bollox on this thread!
:lolol: :lolol: :lolol: WAKEY, WAKEY! wokey.

your lesson will be learnt in the goodness of time!
 


Baldseagull

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Blasphemer! You now have to believe absolutely everything (recession/inflation/cost of living crisis etc) is caused by Brexit as it justifies spending 6+ years spouting project fear bollox on this thread!
All of those problems, and more, are at least made worse by Brexit. Find one thing that is in any way better because of Brexit.
 










WATFORD zero

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Blasphemer! You now have to believe absolutely everything (recession/inflation/cost of living crisis etc) is caused by Brexit as it justifies spending 6+ years spouting project fear bollox on this thread!
You could at least try to highlight a benefit or make an argument for why you so desperately wanted this massive act of national self harm before you run off. Or maybe explain your solution to the Northern Ireland problem, or our complete inability to implement import controls or control our borders, because you've put forward such well informed, reasoned and logical cases over the years :lolol:

It is the Brexit thread for discussion about Brexit after all, and I'm sure it can't be that you have absolutely nothing to contribute.

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