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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley

Claiming that Japan's issue with UK dairy products is their protectionism begs the question of how the EU got dairy included in their deal with Japan? The EU have a deal that reduces cheese to zero tariff by 2033, we get hit with 29%, Liz Truss might call that a disgrace. The only agricultural product quota Japan has allowed the UK, is any that the EU have been given but not used, we get the scraps from the table, if there is any.
 




Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves
I think their vitriol served to cover the absence of logic in their argument. There were others who just banged on about 'the will of the people' and 'democracy'.... I suppose if the will of the majority was for self harm, the rest of us were ultimately bound to be dragged along, but they even tried to blame our frustration and defiance....
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,579
Gods country fortnightly

Just so desperate to have something from Brexit, instead we end up worse off

How on earth did we do a trade deal to take Ozzie agricultural products when they still ban our beef on the grounds of BSE?

Our farmers are faced with the prospect of cheap imports with lower standards whilst being forced to keep our high standards. As the country gets poorer do the government think consumers will pay the British premium?

They gave it all away with nothing in return
 
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Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,472
Sussex by the Sea
Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves
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Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?



Covid and Putins war muddy the picture, those and Brexit are all affecting the economy, none of them positively, but Brexit was the only one we chose to go through, because some bullshitters managed to persuade you it would be good for the UK The third article makes virtues of some of the major pitfalls, claiming things like an increase in UK Greenfield FDI, where what is happening is EU companies have set up a subsidiary in the UK because of Brexit import and operations grief, whilst ignoring the opposite moves of UK companies that now have EU companies doing most of their business, with smaller UK operations, Easyjet for example. It also claims effects on the City of London are small, they are not, and will get worse as we approach the Equivalence deal for clearing houses ending in 2025.
At least with Covid and Putin we don't have twats touting the economic benefits to face mask producers, and Defence Industry as reasons why we should be happy about them.
 




sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,271
Hove
Really struggling to see any benefits from the Brexit vote today.

It seems a lot of UK people are simply poorer.

Much as I still favour Single Market Membership outside the EU ( like cake-eating Norway ) maybe it is just time to simply bin the whole Brexit thing off as an absolute catastrophy for the UK people ? Let's just organise a simple vote asap and hopefully ditch the disaster.
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
Much as I still favour Single Market Membership outside the EU ( like cake-eating Norway ) maybe it is just time to simply bin the whole Brexit thing off as an absolute catastrophy for the UK people ? Let's just organise a simple vote asap and hopefully ditch the disaster.
If you just believed a bit more then we’d be seeing more benefits
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,579
Gods country fortnightly
Really struggling to see any benefits from the Brexit vote today.

It seems a lot of UK people are simply poorer.

Much as I still favour Single Market Membership outside the EU ( like cake-eating Norway ) maybe it is just time to simply bin the whole Brexit thing off as an absolute catastrophy for the UK people ? Let's just organise a simple vote asap and hopefully ditch the disaster.
You really think the EU would want us back after the disgraceful behaviour of UK governments since the vote?

First we need try and improve on the TCA which is shite, then full independent public enquiry into the whole thing.

After this maybe we can have a grown up discussion.

Get rid of this corrupt cabal, then the rebuild from the ashes can begin
 
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rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
8,202
Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves
:lolol: neither of them were the full shilling; but,

BY THE LORD HARRY!, they both knew they were right!
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,271
Hove
More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?




Or, to use another sea based analogy, when the tide goes out you can see who's been swimming naked. I reckon there's a pair of shorts on the beach with a " JC Football Genius" name label in the back, stitched in by mum.
Both WokeWorrier and JCFG like to refer to anyone who sees through Brexit as "radicalised". JCFG used to love throwing that judgement about. "Radicalised" by whom we'll never know. :shrug:

Must be something in the going-out-tide's water ?
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,706
The Fatherland
Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves
deleted. Had a change of heart.
 
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Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Both WokeWorrier and JCFG like to refer to anyone who sees through Brexit as "radicalised". JCFG used to love throwing that judgement about. "Radicalised" by whom we'll never know. :shrug:

Must be something in the going-out-tide's water ?
'What is radicalism in simple terms?
In political science, the term radicalism is the belief that society needs to be changed, and that these changes are only possible through revolutionary means. Most people think of left-wing politics when they use the noun radicalism, although people on both ends of the spectrum can be described as radical.'


.... seems to me there is heavy subliminal irony in the judgments those two posters made.
 




virtual22

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2010
443
De-regulating the city, bankers bonus caps gone

Reward their mates again. Could there finally be a Brexit winner?
This isn’t just a brexit thing, the EU has already announced that they are dropping some of the regulations that came in post the financial crisis including things like the liquidity rules. The UK is actually playing catch up on some of this now.
 








WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,776
With just over three weeks to go before we reach the milestone of two years out of the Customs Union, I was wondering what plans there are for the celebrations ?

Tea Towel ? 50p piece ? A Big Ben bong ? :wink:
 


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