[Politics] Brexit

[Questions]

The UK Government is not - and never was - interested in controlling immigration. As an EU member the UK failed to take action it could have to reduce immigration. Brexit has got rid of EU citizens that were staffing our hospitals and paying tax, but immigration continues to grow

A 25k gap in needed nurses now yet highest ever joining rates

 

[Questions]

A single market is a long time away…. I can’t see it being discussed seriously in the next Labour manifesto …. They’ll need at least one more term after to get really chatty on it.

 

[Eric the meek]

This comment intentionally left blank, so that the Brexiteers can gather the available data and list the benefits of Brexit.

 

[Blue3]

The gammony Brexiteers voices are getting quieter and quieter as they realise not only were they conned but that they are largely to blame for the mess the U.K. is currently in.

They don’t understand the full implications of what they’ve done and probably never will. Too thick. But they know they’ve dropped a bollock. And now they can’t afford to eat.

We’ll be back in the single market within 5 years.

I do hope that’s the case Clamp free movement is a must we are apparently 4,000 GP’s short owing to the fact they left to return home after Brexit, today I tried to order a specific dehumidifier but it’s not in stock any where in the UK.
My nephew ordered a guitar part from Europe a couple of weeks ago when it arrived it included £70 export/import duty

 

[Blue3]

Unfortunately there is a large swathe of 'middle England' who were never bothered about the EU, not in favour of leaving, never persuaded by all the (false) promises, who voted remain, and yet are now in the 'the nation decided and now we must move on' camp.

A strange, hesitant, trusting mass of fools, who accept that the referendum was fair and binding and, like death, something that cannot be undone.

Only when they become receptive to the idea that we must create a 'single market type trade deal with the EU' will there be any movement over Brexit. Such a deal is absolutely anathema to the ERG, and any government that pursues it will be accused of 'betraying the will of the people'.

One can understand why Starmer is keeping his powder dry. He is not yet PM and this is not yet his fight. A couple more years of no benefits and continued problems may start to shift the landscape a bit. But all the while that reasonably sensible people are continuing to blame our financial ills on Covid and the war with Ukraine, nothing will change, and any political party that suggests we should probably Do Something will be ridiculed.

It really has impacted massively on my cousin he has a very successful business in Malta he lived in the UK but also has a holiday home in Switzerland, his two children one lives and works in Paris while the second is attending university in Germany.
Before Brexit my cousin would fly out from the uk Monday returning most weekends, in the uk was a subsidiary of the Maltese company that his wife managed, they found after Brexit this became unmanageable so decided to sell up the uk operation and home they moved permanently to Switzerland to continue commuting to Malta, While his daughter has become a French citizen, only his son I understand intends returning to the UK upon completion of his studies in Munich.
Now I know this quite an unusual family but the effects of Brexit has split forced them to closed a uk business and relocated to different countrie, moving the tax out of the uk, the uk business didn’t employ many but a few have lost a job no one has come out of this well

 

[WATFORD zero]

More self imposed economic sanctions.

Have we started checking any imports at Dover yet or is Brexit still only in one direction? I've lost track

No, no we haven't.

If you remember JRM went from 'taking back control' to 'an act of self harm' without even pausing for breath



And of course implementing the checks to 'take back control' would mean even higher prices on imported food, the corresponding increase in inflation, and more empty shelves in the supermarkets so we have that to look forward to next year now. Brexit, the gift that never stops taking

 

[Wokeworrier]

Have we reached the point we're allowed to say Brexit is a disaster, or is it still the fault of Covid / Putin's War?

More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?

Brexit isn’t to blame for our current problems; it is still an opportunity | Larry Elliott

Whether that opportunity is seized or squandered is yet to be seen but the dire predictions didn’t happen

www.theguardian.com

Don’t blame Brexit for our economic woes

On a range of metrics - from trade to inflation and the financial sector - the downsides of leaving the EU have been vastly overstated

www.telegraph.co.uk

What impact is Brexit having on the UK economy? - Briefings For Britain

In this major report on the impact of Brexit using the latest data, the three authors examine a wide range of economic indicators including, GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. Their conclusion is that there is no hard evidence that Brexit has had a negative impact on the UK economy.

www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk

 

[zefarelly]

Couple more years of it being all COVID / Putin's fault.
Then, if we're lucky, it'll be because of something the new Labour government has done.

So it'll still be Corbyns fault.

bloody commies

 

[Lever]

More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?

Brexit isn’t to blame for our current problems; it is still an opportunity | Larry Elliott

Whether that opportunity is seized or squandered is yet to be seen but the dire predictions didn’t happen

www.theguardian.com

Don’t blame Brexit for our economic woes

On a range of metrics - from trade to inflation and the financial sector - the downsides of leaving the EU have been vastly overstated

www.telegraph.co.uk

What impact is Brexit having on the UK economy? - Briefings For Britain

In this major report on the impact of Brexit using the latest data, the three authors examine a wide range of economic indicators including, GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. Their conclusion is that there is no hard evidence that Brexit has had a negative impact on the UK economy.

www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk

Keep believing!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Let's not talk this great country down.

Under Jeremy Corbyn....

I see the 'vote remain' vote has now crossed the 70% rubicon.

Fancy that.

 

[Randy McNob]

The easy solutiom is this: rejoin the EU and tell Brexiters to list down all the benefits and alll the things they'd miss or enjoyed while being outside the EU and tell them they can still have them when we we rejoin

 

[nicko31]

@steveparker8065​

1 day ago
Brexit has given us all the same benefits as the Blitz without the need to bother a foreign nation. Rations, economic collapse and the reduction of infrastructure, what more could we ask for?

The Tory councillor at 1min 19 is one sharp cookie

 

[Eric the meek]

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What impact is Brexit having on the UK economy? - Briefings For Britain

In this major report on the impact of Brexit using the latest data, the three authors examine a wide range of economic indicators including, GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. Their conclusion is that there is no hard evidence that Brexit has had a negative impact on the UK economy.

www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk

You won't find any objectivity in that article. Have you read their mission statement? Christ.

My suspicions were raised when I read the Executive Summary. It had a clear, unswerving agenda and had selected only the data that the authors thought support that agenda. That Executive Summary is riddled with erroneous conclusions - from their own data. For instance, it cites similar economic data in - some - EU countries, and presents this as evidence that Brexit has not influenced the similar UK data. Non sequitur. That conclusion does not follow. The fact that the authors don't realise this, is made all the more amusing by the very first line of the mission statement:

'BriefingsforBritain (originally BriefingsforBrexit) was founded in response to a widespread media view that all sensible and informed people opposed Brexit.'

 

[nicko31]

Sovrintee in action

EU sets out plans to shift derivatives clearing from London to Frankfurt

Banks and other market participants in the European Union will have to prove to regulators that they are not overly reliant on clearing houses in London for processing their derivatives transactions, an EU draft document seen by Reuters showed.

www.reuters.com

EU sets out plans to shift derivatives clearing from London to Frankfurt​

 

[Pretty Plnk Fairy]

No, no we haven't.

If you remember JRM went from 'taking back control' to 'an act of self harm' without even pausing for breath



And of course implementing the checks to 'take back control' would mean even higher prices on imported food, the corresponding increase in inflation, and more empty shelves in the supermarkets so we have that to look forward to next year now. Brexit, the gift that never stops taking

Speech for yourself snowflayke. Every times i see JrM on the tv i commit an act of self harm unless my mum is in the room

r3gards

DF

 

[Lever]

 

[rogersix]

More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?

Brexit isn’t to blame for our current problems; it is still an opportunity | Larry Elliott

Whether that opportunity is seized or squandered is yet to be seen but the dire predictions didn’t happen

www.theguardian.com

Don’t blame Brexit for our economic woes

On a range of metrics - from trade to inflation and the financial sector - the downsides of leaving the EU have been vastly overstated

www.telegraph.co.uk

What impact is Brexit having on the UK economy? - Briefings For Britain

In this major report on the impact of Brexit using the latest data, the three authors examine a wide range of economic indicators including, GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. Their conclusion is that there is no hard evidence that Brexit has had a negative impact on the UK economy.

www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk

blimey! the tides coming in, wokey! if you keep swimming against it, you'll end up all at sea!

when we are back in the customs union and single market, will you still post using this account?

 

[Guinness Boy]

blimey! the tides coming in, wokey! if you keep swimming against it, you'll end up all at sea!

when we are back in the customs union and single market, will you still post using this account?

Or, to use another sea based analogy, when the tide goes out you can see who's been swimming naked. I reckon there's a pair of shorts on the beach with a " JC Football Genius" name label in the back, stitched in by mum.

 

[rogersix]

Or, to use another sea based analogy, when the tide goes out you can see who's been swimming naked. I reckon there's a pair of shorts on the beach with a " JC Football Genius" name label in the back, stitched in by mum.

bad image for a sunday morning!

jcfg was the really angry persona, wasn't he? what did ever happen to him, and also chicken run?

 

[nicko31]

bad image for a sunday morning!

jcfg was the really angry persona, wasn't he? what did ever happen to him, and also chicken run?

Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves