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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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You clearly haven't even read them. Some predictions, some have happened, some are going to happen for example I think Ford can predict what will happen to it's own business and employees better than you. I think the architecture sector knows better than you, I think Legal week, this is money and bd know more than you.

Project fear? Ha, try project clueless. This is happening whether brexiters acknowledge it or not. It is happening now.


For once I agree with you, Ford is in control of its destiny, the question should be why is it that EU taxpayers money has been loaned to a US multinational to build a factory outside the EU that would ultimately lead to redundancies for Ford workers in the EU.

No one cried for these Ford workers and the subsequent job losses in the U.K. supply chain.........nope these job losses can go swing, it's only the post Brexit job losses that you are pissing your pants about.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=WQ&reference=E-2012-011072&language=EN

Boo-hoo.
 
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The Clamp

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For once I agree with you, Ford is in control of its destiny, the question should be why is it that EU taxpayers money has been loaned to a US multinational to build a factory outside the EU that would ultimately lead to redundancies for Ford workers in the EU.

No one cried for these Ford workers and the subsequent job losses in the U.K. supply chain.........nope these job losses can go swing, it's only the post Brexit job losses that you are pissing your pants about.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=WQ&reference=E-2012-011072&language=EN

Boo-hoo.

Because it's only post referendum job losses I'm talking about on the subject of Brexit. It's rather simple.
 


cunning fergus

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Because it's only post referendum job losses I'm talking about on the subject of Brexit. It's rather simple.


I see.

I guess you don't have the mental motor skills that enable you to grasp the concept of cause and effect.

If you did, then understanding why millions of people decided to vote for Brexit is really rather simple.........
 


The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
4,592
I see.

I guess you don't have the mental motor skills that enable you to grasp the concept of cause and effect.

If you did, then understanding why millions of people decided to vote for Brexit is really rather simple.........

Cunning that was Stunning..................:lolol:
 




The Clamp

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I see.

I guess you don't have the mental motor skills that enable you to grasp the concept of cause and effect.

If you did, then understanding why millions of people decided to vote for Brexit is really rather simple.........

If you're going to critique another posters intelligence perhaps you should look up what motor skills are.
This is all going round in circles, night.
 




pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Sussex
But, as others have determined, there is little tangible day-to-day economic difference between losing membership of the single market and losing full access to it.

Interesting
who are all these others you refer to?

if you have lost full access to the single market you have NO access to the single market. you are in effect in a trade embargo situation where the markets are closed.
I cant imagine anyone has ever said there is little difference between not being members of the single market(but still trading with it) and not trading with it at all.
sounds like you are still confusing access to and membership of
 
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pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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But, as others have determined, there is little tangible day-to-day economic difference between losing membership of the single market and losing full access to it.

sleeping on it.... i realise it its quite possible i may have misinterpreted what you have said, so apologies in advance if you meant something different, ignore my previous post on the last page if this is the case.
lost full access? fully lost access?the beauty of our language allows me to interpret it as fully losing all access.......perhaps in future you could stick to comparing various levels of access to the single market or various levels of membership......would avoid confusion when comparing membership v access which is not helpful.

anyway if i have got it wrong soz loads......if i havnt got it wrong .....the gloves are off
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Sorry but I believe I am right and wait for you and others to say I told you so. Sadly you will be proved wrong over time. Bedwetter

What a lovely, understanding and sympathetic person you are.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Not a bad effort.

Now can you name any EU countries who would swap their economy for ours?

I bet you come up with more than 1 country this time.

I reckon Greece would be up for swopping and having slightly less national debt. Do I win?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Record numbers in employment announced today. It is happening now.

What sort of jobs though? Remove all the flaky self-employed agency jobs, zero hour deals and especially the exponentially rising gig economy and there's not a lot left behind.
 






The Clamp

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What sort of jobs though? Remove all the flaky self-employed agency jobs, zero hour deals and especially the exponentially rising gig economy and there's not a lot left behind.

Quite, similar to when the government announces that the number of people on JSA has fallen. Translation: they have kicked a load of people off benefits or pushed them into that scheme where they get you into business for yourself no-matter that the business idea is poor and bound to fail.
 


pastafarian

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Quite, similar to when the government announces that the number of people on JSA has fallen. Translation: they have kicked a load of people off benefits or pushed them into that scheme where they get you into business for yourself no-matter that the business idea is poor and bound to fail.

:ffsparr:
 


JC Footy Genius

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Jun 9, 2015
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Business shrugs off Brexit to create 100,000 new jobs

More than 100,000 people found jobs between May and August as businesses shrugged off Brexit fears and continued hiring in the two months after the European Union referendum.

Employment remained at a record high of 31.8 million, the unemployment rate was at an 11-year low of 4.9 per cent and wage growth was steady at 2.3 per cent in a surprisingly resilient jobs market for the three months to August.

Sterling was unmoved by the news, holding at $1.2296 against the dollar after edging a little lower in early trading. It rose 0.16 cents against the euro to €1.1212.

Nick Palmer, of the Office for National Statistics, said that the official data suggested “continuing confidence in the economy” during the summer and after the vote.

However, other experts warned of a looming squeeze on living standards as inflation threatens to overtake pay growth. Economists and officials expect Britain’s decision to leave the European Union to hit jobs and wages as businesses row back on investment and demand falters, but there has been little sign of the effect to date.

The 74.5 per cent employment rate is a record high, vacancies are holding up at 749,000 and almost all the 106,000 jobs created were by companies rather than self-employed.

The claimant count for September, which is one month ahead of the unemployment numbers and is based on jobseeker’s allowance claims, was 2.3 per cent, the same as August and just above the 2.2 per cent earlier in the year.


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/bu...eeze-lfx99m2qt

Thought I would post this again as some people obviously missed it.
 


CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
45,096
Business shrugs off Brexit to create 100,000 new jobs

More than 100,000 people found jobs between May and August as businesses shrugged off Brexit fears and continued hiring in the two months after the European Union referendum.

Employment remained at a record high of 31.8 million, the unemployment rate was at an 11-year low of 4.9 per cent and wage growth was steady at 2.3 per cent in a surprisingly resilient jobs market for the three months to August.

Sterling was unmoved by the news, holding at $1.2296 against the dollar after edging a little lower in early trading. It rose 0.16 cents against the euro to €1.1212.

Nick Palmer, of the Office for National Statistics, said that the official data suggested “continuing confidence in the economy” during the summer and after the vote.

However, other experts warned of a looming squeeze on living standards as inflation threatens to overtake pay growth. Economists and officials expect Britain’s decision to leave the European Union to hit jobs and wages as businesses row back on investment and demand falters, but there has been little sign of the effect to date.

The 74.5 per cent employment rate is a record high, vacancies are holding up at 749,000 and almost all the 106,000 jobs created were by companies rather than self-employed.

The claimant count for September, which is one month ahead of the unemployment numbers and is based on jobseeker’s allowance claims, was 2.3 per cent, the same as August and just above the 2.2 per cent earlier in the year.


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/bu...eeze-lfx99m2qt

Thought I would post this again as some people obviously missed it.

You can bold anything eh?
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
You can bold anything eh?

Business shrugs off Brexit to create 100,000 new jobs

More than 100,000 people found jobs between May and August as businesses shrugged off Brexit fears and continued hiring in the two months after the European Union referendum.

Employment remained at a record high of 31.8 million, the unemployment rate was at an 11-year low of 4.9 per cent and wage growth was steady at 2.3 per cent in a surprisingly resilient jobs market for the three months to August.

Sterling was unmoved by the news, holding at $1.2296 against the dollar after edging a little lower in early trading. It rose 0.16 cents against the euro to €1.1212.

Nick Palmer, of the Office for National Statistics, said that the official data suggested “continuing confidence in the economy” during the summer and after the vote.

However, other experts warned of a looming squeeze on living standards as inflation threatens to overtake pay growth. Economists and officials expect Britain’s decision to leave the European Union to hit jobs and wages as businesses row back on investment and demand falters, but there has been little sign of the effect to date.

The 74.5 per cent employment rate is a record high, vacancies are holding up at 749,000 and almost all the 106,000 jobs created were by companies rather than self-employed.

The claimant count for September, which is one month ahead of the unemployment numbers and is based on jobseeker’s allowance claims, was 2.3 per cent, the same as August and just above the 2.2 per cent earlier in the year.

Yes and underline things too!
 




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