[Politics] Brexit

[cunning fergus]

From that article that you managed to dig out from over 6 years ago

The chancellor said house prices would be lower by at least 10% and up to 18% compared with what is expected if Britain remains in the EU and there will be an “economic shock” that will increase the cost of mortgages.

Well we've only been out the transition period a little over 20 months and the cost of mortgages is increasing hugely, inflation is spiralling, GDP is dropping, the cost of living is rising but you are totally convinced none of this will effect the price of your property

After your prediction that Brexit would be a great victory for the British working classes you can see how I may remain less than entirely convinced by your latest prediction

And yet……..

House prices continued to rise………must be all those bankers that decided to stay and not head off to the EU?

Fascinating.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Many years ago out very own Das Reich reassured me that after Brexit we would bus in and out all the cheap labour we need to pick the fruit in September.

Below some fields today in Faversham. The boxes empty, nobody to be seen and the apples falling and rotting.

Another Brexit bonus!

 

[Lever]

Many years ago out very own Das Reich reassured me that after Brexit we would bus in and out all the cheap labour we need to pick the fruit in September.

Below some fields today in Faversham. The boxes empty, nobody to be seen and the apples falling and rotting.

Another Brexit bonus!

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Defend that!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Defend that!

 

[Randy McNob]

why on earth the notion of a 'festival of Brexit' emerged is quite mid blowing. Why would anyone celebrate being more restricted, poorer, and policy which is undeniably a complete failure

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[WATFORD zero]

why on earth the notion of a 'festival of Brexit' emerged is quite mid blowing. Why would anyone celebrate being more restricted, poorer, and policy which is undeniably a complete failure

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A complete and utter disastrous waste of money celebrating a vastly bigger complete and utter disastrous waste of money ?

Seems appropriate, if somewhat disproportionate

 

[sparkie]

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[WATFORD zero]

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[WATFORD zero]

I really couldn't have summed it up better

Whisper it, but it was the folly of Brexit that paved the way for Truss’s crazy libertarian zeal

Whisper it – this is where Brexit has inexorably led. A democratic vote has transmuted into a rightwing coup, culminating in a destructive libertarian programme, an attempt to shrink a state the right considers bloated, to eliminate the last remnants of regulation, to try to drive taxes down, however vital to sustain public services. All in the name of “liberating enterprise” and forcing “self-reliance” on what the Brexit right consider a lazy, cushioned workforce. The line from Brexit to last week’s debacle is straight and obvious.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/whisper-it-but-it-was-the-folly-of-brexit-that-paved-the-way-for-truss-s-crazy-libertarian-zeal/ar-AA12uZES?ocid=EMMX&cvid=0e7d719e63694a79b9beb154d9397a25

There really can't be many more pennies left to drop as to what this whole thing was about, can there ? Farage to Johnson to Truss to this

 

[nicko31]

Steve Baker shows a bit of humility, that's a first

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63111685

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Interesting observations at the Conservative Party Conference. Click on the tweet to see several photos and comparisons

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[Blue3]

The Government the BBC and all the Tory friendly press blame the mess we are currently in upon Covid19, the war in Ukraine, World markets and a global financial slowdown verging upon a global recession but no one ever mentions let alone includes Brexit

 

[nicko31]

The Government the BBC and all the Tory friendly press blame the mess we are currently in upon Covid19, the war in Ukraine, World markets and a global financial slowdown verging upon a global recession but no one ever mentions let alone includes Brexit

And now we have a PM obsessed with growth or lack of.

Its what happens when you impose trade sanctions on yourself

 

[Lever]

Final word of Brexit and Brexiters? I think for me this sums up the mendacity of the pro Brexit opinion formers and the damage they have inflicted on the UK....

Anyone here still 'right behind Boris' or celebrating Brexit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBQUleAn-M

 

[WATFORD zero]

There have been some truly f***ing evil things done under the patronage of Brexit

Channel migrants: More children crossing to UK since Brexit as official routes ‘can’t compete’ with smugglers

Since Brexit, charity Safe Passage said that more people have been driven to cross the Channel in small boats due to the loss of the EU’s Dublin regulation, which helped facilitate family reunion for children. Prior to the UK withdrawing from this agreement, all of the unaccompanied children whom the charity were helping to reunite with family went through the legal channels.

n 2018, just 25 under 18s were recorded as crossing to the UK via the Channel. In 2019, this was 308. But in 2020, following Brexit, the figure rose sharply to 1,449, reaching 4,321 in 2021. This year’s figures are set to exceed last year’s, with 1,866 children recorded as crossing the Channel from January to June alone. The figure will see an uptick from the summer months, when good weather means that more Channel crossings take place.

https://inews.co.uk/news/channel-migrants-children-crossing-uk-brexit-official-routes-smugglers-1871628

It just needs some Brexit supporting idiot to claim it is 'unintended consequences' when it was abundantly clear throughout the whole campaign. Hope you're proud of yourselves,

 

[Randy McNob]

There have been some truly f***ing evil things done under the patronage of Brexit

Channel migrants: More children crossing to UK since Brexit as official routes ‘can’t compete’ with smugglers

Since Brexit, charity Safe Passage said that more people have been driven to cross the Channel in small boats due to the loss of the EU’s Dublin regulation, which helped facilitate family reunion for children. Prior to the UK withdrawing from this agreement, all of the unaccompanied children whom the charity were helping to reunite with family went through the legal channels.

n 2018, just 25 under 18s were recorded as crossing to the UK via the Channel. In 2019, this was 308. But in 2020, following Brexit, the figure rose sharply to 1,449, reaching 4,321 in 2021. This year’s figures are set to exceed last year’s, with 1,866 children recorded as crossing the Channel from January to June alone. The figure will see an uptick from the summer months, when good weather means that more Channel crossings take place.

https://inews.co.uk/news/channel-migrants-children-crossing-uk-brexit-official-routes-smugglers-1871628

It just needs some Brexit supporting idiot to claim it is 'unintended consequences' when it was abundantly clear throughout the whole campaign. Hope you're proud of yourselves,

apparantly no one knows who they are or where they come from because they destroy all their documents. Oh, but they are all mostly Albanian

 

[vegster]

There have been some truly f***ing evil things done under the patronage of Brexit

Channel migrants: More children crossing to UK since Brexit as official routes ‘can’t compete’ with smugglers

Since Brexit, charity Safe Passage said that more people have been driven to cross the Channel in small boats due to the loss of the EU’s Dublin regulation, which helped facilitate family reunion for children. Prior to the UK withdrawing from this agreement, all of the unaccompanied children whom the charity were helping to reunite with family went through the legal channels.

n 2018, just 25 under 18s were recorded as crossing to the UK via the Channel. In 2019, this was 308. But in 2020, following Brexit, the figure rose sharply to 1,449, reaching 4,321 in 2021. This year’s figures are set to exceed last year’s, with 1,866 children recorded as crossing the Channel from January to June alone. The figure will see an uptick from the summer months, when good weather means that more Channel crossings take place.

https://inews.co.uk/news/channel-migrants-children-crossing-uk-brexit-official-routes-smugglers-1871628

It just needs some Brexit supporting idiot to claim it is 'unintended consequences' when it was abundantly clear throughout the whole campaign. Hope you're proud of yourselves,

We live in a " United Kingdom " where the Home Secretary dreams of deporting desperate innocent people to Rwanda.....truly utterly disgusting and heartless...what have we become? How did we become so riddled with hatred and anger ?

 

[nicko31]

German Christmas markets cancelled in dirty Leeds forever...

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...-due-to-brexit-yorkshire-post-letters-3873272

Oh well...

 

[Simster]

Latest opinion poll has rejoin EU at 59% - the trend to rejoin is strengthening month on month as we can see here:

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls-uk-eu/

FWIW, I wouldn't want a referendum on this until we are at around 70% - it needs to be unarguable to avoid rinse and repeat. Then finally, the naive deluded clowns and the moronic little-Englanders who voted for this crock of shit might hang their heads in shame in years to come (although I wouldn't hold my breath because ignorance is a common trait of the average simpleton).

 

[WATFORD zero]

Latest opinion poll has rejoin EU at 59% - the trend to rejoin is strengthening month on month as we can see here:

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls-uk-eu/

FWIW, I wouldn't want a referendum on this until we are at around 70% - it needs to be unarguable to avoid rinse and repeat. Then finally, the naive deluded clowns and the moronic little-Englanders who voted for this crock of shit might hang their heads in shame in years to come (although I wouldn't hold my breath because ignorance is a common trait of the average simpleton).

As the pennies have been dropping just about everywhere, it has become blindingly obvious to even the most cerebrally challenged that Brexit could never 'get done' the way Farage, Johnson and co sold it to the terminally naïve, and that Johnson's NIP 'solution' and JRM's 'act of self harm' of actually putting Import controls in place was a complete fantasy exactly as predicted throughout this thread.

So, where are we now ? Obviously we will have to re-join the Single Market at some stage, probably under the next Government and, maybe we will get to re-join the EU eventually.

But the one thing the victorious Brexiteers will always have is that we'll never get close to the benefits and influence we once had over the world's largest trading bloc, that 40 years worth of politicians of all political hues had worked incredibly hard to refine and improve to Britain's benefit, right up to the point Cameron said 'I've had a great idea to cover up the cracks in our party'

Whatever happens now, they will always have that victory of screwing Britain over forever