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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
I can't help but laugh at those that think they have a chance at usurping the result. They are like typical lawyers or spinners looking for loopholes. You succeed, you succeed in nothing but encouraging civil strife, riots, and angst amongst ALL communities. Is this clever? Hatred amongst young and old, religion against religion, communities against communities? Stir it up by trying to change the result of the referendum will be catastrophic. I fear, really I fear.

:drama:
 








Superseagull

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,123
£ getting weaker as Asia starts trading. 1.32 against the dollar and 1.20 against the Euro. Not good.

Hope Georgie boy has some words of wisdom tomorrow morning otherwise we could see it slump further.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
No, no and thrice no. It is OUT and that's it. No backtracking. Boris never wanted out, just himself 'in'. I know loads of people who voted 'out' so that it would force a renegiociation of being in. No, no and no. Sometimes I still can't believe how thick people can be. We are OUT and now its just a matter of how much of our arse we can retain as we run the gauntlet out tthe door. THAT is democracy.

Of all the unintended consequences of this referendum, I think the Labour civil war was the unlikeliest but could also be the one giving the best result. If Corbyn goes he could split the party but his support is extremely shallow, I'd go so far as fickle, leaving a centrist-left Labour with most of the talent. Most importantly it would be palatable to floating voters and bitter Remain Tories. They could do well enough to form with the SNP a government in 2020.

There's lots of ifs and buts and caveats in that but if, God forbid, Johnson or Gove is PM then I think it could be a possibility. But you're right, whoever leads us needs to work with a post-EU Britain.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
£ getting weaker as Asia starts trading. 1.32 against the dollar and 1.20 against the Euro. Not good.

Hope Georgie boy has some words of wisdom tomorrow morning otherwise we could see it slump further.
Tomorrow will be bad, but we'll bounce back if we get a good economic exit deal. Not the time to need to buy foreign currency.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
And by that logic, do you consider all Muslims to be terrorists because of the actions of a handful of individuals worldwide. Don't make wild assumptions and tar everyone with the same brush because of the actions of a few individuals.

The vast majority of people in this country will be disgusted by that behaviour regardless of whether they voted remain, leave or didn't vote.

No I don't. I was clearly responding to a previous comment which was claiming that Out voters were not racist, when clearly the statement should be modified to reflect that some are.
 


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,722
Shoreham Beaaaach
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months.

President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong.

The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place.

The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU.

A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas.

The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt.

Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately.

If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months.

President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong.

The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place.

The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU.

A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas.

The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt.

Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately.

If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.

Please be quiet they don't want to hear it....it's all me me me and net page petitions....:lolol:
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
All the while we continue to pour £19billion a year into the EU until we leave then we will continue to be entitled to the same payouts so nothing has changed. Once we leave i have no idea how the farmers will cope but with those billions of pounds no longer filling the EU coffers I imagine we will be in.a position to support our own farmers.


I'm not sure why you quote £19bn being paid to the EU, given that the net figure after rebate and EU spending on the UK was £8.5bn in 2015.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
Tomorrow will be bad, but we'll bounce back if we get a good economic exit deal. Not the time to need to buy foreign currency.

No comfort with the holiday season about to go into high season with people needing to buy Euros and other foreign currency for holidays aboard.
 








Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months.

President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong.

The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place.

The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU.

A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas.

The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt.

Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately.

If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.

Very impressive insight. I think you should lead our delegation to negotiate the terms.
 








Yoda

English & European
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months.

As I've said before, unfortunately international trading is done in $US. As the £GP falls, the cost of these trades goes up.

Also, the FTSE 100 comprises of mainly international companies. The FTSE250 (which contains the bulk of the UK companies) fell by 7.19%.
 






warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,385
Beaminster, Dorset
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months.

President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong.

The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place.

The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU.

A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas.

The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt.

Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately.

If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.

Fair points and the apocalypse scenario was undoubtedly overplayed. It doesn't,however, remove the risk that Brexit will contribute to uncertainty, slower growth, lower £, higher interest rates. These may (or may not) play out over a long period of time, and of course the Brexiteers will never admit it was their policy wot caused them if they occur.

It is a balance of risk point; Remain seemed a more sensible vote to me because of the uncertainty caused by a policy that seems to have no road map to fruition, and no concrete measure of accountability of whether it is succeeding.
 




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