[Politics] Brexit

[nicko31]

In direct answer to your initial questions, I recall that one or two of our very own homegrown Brexiteers might just have woven this into their narrative at some stage. However, in reality that godawful government of Poland are flirting with this possibility (in effect) - and there were popular demonstrations against this in several Polish cities over the weekend.

Funnily enough it seems to be the far right, nationalist, ideologues that are driving this and the younger, urban, educated citizens opposing it. Wow! Where have we heard this before, I wonder?

And for any neutrals in Poland than they should only have to look over in our direction and see what a pig's ear we've made of it to make up their minds.

Young people in Poland just look at the complete skip fire in the UK and say no thanks.

Meanwhile, in Austria, Chancellor Sebastian Kurz resigned over a corruption and in the Czech Republic election hard right billionaire PM Andrej Babis is defeated.

Populists are having a bad month...

 

[sparkie]

In direct answer to your initial questions, I recall that one or two of our very own homegrown Brexiteers might just have woven this into their narrative at some stage. However, in reality that godawful government of Poland are flirting with this possibility (in effect) - and there were popular demonstrations against this in several Polish cities over the weekend.

Funnily enough it seems to be the far right, nationalist, ideologues that are driving this and the younger, urban, educated citizens opposing it. Wow! Where have we heard this before, I wonder?

And for any neutrals in Poland than they should only have to look over in our direction and see what a pig's ear we've made of it to make up their minds.

I think if Le Pen gets in in France then the EU is in existential trouble. But if that doesn't happen then it isn't falling apart any time soon.

 

[Randy McNob]

In direct answer to your initial questions, I recall that one or two of our very own homegrown Brexiteers might just have woven this into their narrative at some stage. However, in reality that godawful government of Poland are flirting with this possibility (in effect) - and there were popular demonstrations against this in several Polish cities over the weekend.

Funnily enough it seems to be the far right, nationalist, ideologues that are driving this and the younger, urban, educated citizens opposing it. Wow! Where have we heard this before, I wonder?

And for any neutrals in Poland than they should only have to look over in our direction and see what a pig's ear we've made of it to make up their minds.

no doubt supported by the Russians to destabilise the West, shame we fell for it

 

[A1X]

In direct answer to your initial questions, I recall that one or two of our very own homegrown Brexiteers might just have woven this into their narrative at some stage. However, in reality that godawful government of Poland are flirting with this possibility (in effect) - and there were popular demonstrations against this in several Polish cities over the weekend.

Funnily enough it seems to be the far right, nationalist, ideologues that are driving this and the younger, urban, educated citizens opposing it. Wow! Where have we heard this before, I wonder?

And for any neutrals in Poland than they should only have to look over in our direction and see what a pig's ear we've made of it to make up their minds.

I saw a thing from a Polish journalist over the weekend that they won't put it to a referendum in Poland because the Government know there is no way they can possibly win it, instead they'll just unilaterally decide to do it if they do. Which is basically an indication of why the Brexiters were so aghast at a second referendum over here, people have seen the horror show unleashed in 2016 and gone "nah, no thanks".

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://youtu.be/TipjYX5FB2A

Tick tock tick tock

Regards
DF

 

[A1X]

GB News creaming themselves over a quasi-fascist Government, is it?

More of that fabled "balance".

 

[nicko31]

https://youtu.be/TipjYX5FB2A

Tick tock tick tock

Regards
DF

Anything on European shortages yet from GBeebies? (M&S Paris does not count)

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

GB News creaming themselves over a quasi-fascist Government, is it?

More of that fabled "balance".

It's a shame they couldnt speak to a Polish national for a more realistic view rather then this pro EU mouth piece
GB news going from strength to strength

Regards
DF

 

[vegster]

Whatever happened to the potential Brexit benefit of " We will be able to support our industries without breaching EU rules on Competition Law " ? Surely this was going to be one of the few actual benefits ? or has it gone the same way as cheaper food in the shops and no return to phone roaming charges ?


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/12/energy-crisis-uk-government-will-only-support-firms-on-brink-of-closure




Heavy industry struggling with surging energy costs will only get support if they can prove they have been pushed to the brink of closure, Whitehall sources have said, as industry leaders warned that the package sounded like no more than “flimsy sticking plaster”.

A senior government source said on Tuesday that any scheme for companies would be means-tested, time-limited and repayable to make sure it only dealt with the most severe cases of those about to stop production or go under entirely.

 

[birthofanorange]

GB news going from strength to strength ����

Regards
DF

 

[rogersix]

It's a shame they couldnt speak to a Polish national for a more realistic view rather then this pro EU mouth piece
GB news going from strength to strength

Regards
DF

silly billy naziboy

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

silly billy naziboy

https://youtu.be/O6WDiHIafb8

Regards
DF

 

[A1X]

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[rogersix]

https://youtu.be/O6WDiHIafb8

Regards
DF

still running?

when was the last time you made sense?

as an aside, how's your mentor's sex pest case going?

stalking jeremy vine?

lmfao

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

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And look out for triumphalist headlines in the Mail and Express when (if) the EU's announcements today display flexibility.

On the N. Ireland issue, it seems that the Brexit fanatics have never got their heads around a fundamental formula: Good Friday Agreement = no hard border=N. Ireland protocol=Single Market = ECJ jurisdiction. The biggest irony here is that the architects of the Single Market were the Brits (and under Thatcher!).

The other irony is that the good folk of N. Ireland voted to Remain.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

still running?

when was the last time you made sense?

as an aside, how's your mentor's sex pest case going?

stalking jeremy vine?

lmfao

It's kind of reassuring though that in a rapidly changing and uncertain world, one of the few constants is his continuing contribution to the cut and thrust of high level debates, in his inimitable style.

 

[nicko31]

Quelle un grand suprise.....

Dominic Cummings says UK always intended to ditch NI protocol

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...k-always-intended-to-ditch-ni-protocol-brexit

 

[WATFORD zero]

Quelle un grand suprise.....

Dominic Cummings says UK always intended to ditch NI protocol

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...k-always-intended-to-ditch-ni-protocol-brexit

Hate to be a pedant, but to be strictly accurate, Cummings and Frost always intended to ditch it. Johnson didn't have the capability to understand it until it was very slowly and simply explained to him, long after he signed it

 

[nicko31]

Hate to be a pedant, but to be strictly accurate, Cummings and Frost always intended to ditch it. Johnson didn't have the capability to understand it until it was very slowly and simply explained to him, long after he signed it

Theresa May legacy up 5% this morning....

Meanwhile, Leo Varadkar has warned political leaders not to enter any agreements with the British Government. Wonder how long till Biden is on the blower?

 

[Randy McNob]

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