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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Before you had a British icon made in Britain

Now you have a British icon made in Poland by a French company

You've only scored one goal and its in your own net

I'm not sure he reached the dazzling heights of an OG. More like kicking your standing leg out from under you, making no contact with the ball whatsoever :wink:
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Imagine not being able to fill your car up with petrol because you knew that you were voting not to be able to fill your car up with petrol :facepalm:

It's no wonder the 247 NSC posters who voted leave in the poll at the top of this page don't come near this thread any more, you'd have to be a complete idiot :blush:
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Imagine not being able to fill your car up with petrol because you knew that you were voting not to be able to fill your car up with petrol :facepalm:

It's no wonder the hundreds of NSC posters who voted leave in the poll at the top of this page don't come near this thread any more, you'd have to be a complete idiot :blush:

Michael Green seems to think Brexit will actually help the driver shortage.

Met with a mate of mine last night who is a Retail Consultant, 10% price rises across the board in food from January. Whatever happened to the Moggs cheap food?

Bit by bit project fear becomes project fear.
 




Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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town full of eejits
It's no wonder the 247 NSC posters who voted leave in the poll at the top of this page don't come near this thread any more, you'd have to be a complete idiot :blush:

i'd imagine the run of the mill NSC poster wouldn't waste their time coming on to this thread to be berated , belittled and ridiculed by plums such as yourself...:)

it is what it is , your country is being run by bell ends.:down:
 


WATFORD zero

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i'd imagine the run of the mill NSC poster wouldn't waste their time coming on to this thread to be berated , belittled and ridiculed by plums such as yourself...:)

it is what it is , your country is being run by bell ends.:down:

But I would imagine plums from the other side of the world would be all over it.

And, as you constantly tell people on here who aren't interested, so's yours :wink:
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,194
No no, no , not only do we have our own passport again but we queue at another gate on arrival ,again showing our true identity not some hotch potch mash up of Europeans mingling together

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Brings a tear to my eye

Regards
DF

You are going to get a rude shock if you ever learn the history of the country of which you are so proud.

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sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
But I would imagine plums from the other side of the world would be all over it.

And, as you constantly tell people on here who aren't interested, so's yours :wink:

yes , we also have a corrupt, inept govt. protests , riots etc. etc. at least summer is on its way for us.
 
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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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I’m not sure how much that has to do with Brexit and how much to do with shutting down Europe

Seems it’s a Europe wide thing.

I agree to an extent to be fair, but I think Brexit is exacerbating problems more than they would have been felt (e.g.) 3 years ago, and will mean the recovery from them takes longer.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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I agree to an extent to be fair, but I think Brexit is exacerbating problems more than they would have been felt (e.g.) 3 years ago, and will mean the recovery from them takes longer.

One of the drivers union guys on the BBC said there was 40,000 tests cancelled last year - plus more renewal exams.

You then have people who needed to find work elsewhere during lockdown that don’t want to go back

Plus, people queuing up for petrol are idiots.
 


A1X

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One of the drivers union guys on the BBC said there was 40,000 tests cancelled last year - plus more renewal exams.

You then have people who needed to find work elsewhere during lockdown that don’t want to go back

Plus, people queuing up for petrol are idiots.

We also had a whole load of drivers from Europe (mostly eastern Europe) who left last year and as HGV driver is not on the list of acceptable occupations for the new Government post-Brexit immigration rules they are also being felt. A few years ago it's likely the hauliers would simply hire in some eastern European labour for a few weeks and get through the crisis, that's no longer an option.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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We also had a whole load of drivers from Europe (mostly eastern Europe) who left last year and as HGV driver is not on the list of acceptable occupations for the new Government post-Brexit immigration rules they are also being felt. A few years ago it's likely the hauliers would simply hire in some eastern European labour for a few weeks and get through the crisis, that's no longer an option.

We also had a load of Europeans (and outside) go home because of the shutdown - I work with a couple

You also had the pettiness of the driver testing from France and the UK

Brexit is playing a part, but lockdowns have played a bigger part in my view

You also have the third option - Drivers are treated like dirt
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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One of the drivers union guys on the BBC said there was 40,000 tests cancelled last year - plus more renewal exams.

You then have people who needed to find work elsewhere during lockdown that don’t want to go back

Plus, people queuing up for petrol are idiots.

The government had a clear strategy, get on with a hard Brexit right in the middle of a global pandemic, they were offered an option to pause by the EU but the political opportunity of burying Brexit under the Covid chaos was too great to resist. Remember they only have one priority and that's stay in power at any cost

As for people queuing for fuel, well if the PM says don't panic, well what should we expect?
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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The government had a clear strategy, get on with a hard Brexit right in the middle of a global pandemic, they were offered an option to pause by the EU but the political opportunity of burying Brexit under the Covid chaos was too great to resist. Remember they only have one priority and that's stay in power at any cost

As for people queuing for fuel, well if the PM says don't panic, well what should we expect?

So why is there a shortage of drivers in Europe?

The ability to try and blame Brexit fully for everything is pretty impressive, I say that as someone who voted to stay.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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So why is there a shortage of drivers in Europe?

The ability to try and blame Brexit fully for everything is pretty impressive, I say that as someone who voted to stay.

Well I'm not one that is blaming it completely on Brexit, but putting a hard Brexit on top of broader issues is a tipping point. It was obvious the UK government was never ready for Brexit, take customs controls the Dutch were ready, the French were ready, we weren't so we have an open customs border at Dover for the foreseeable. What was the point of Brexit if trade sanctions are only imposed one-way? As a result many British businesses have been thrown under the bus, EU businesses have more time to adjust

There are driver shortages in Europe too, but I don't see empty shelves in France, Germany or even Ireland, let alone fuel shortages. It a weak government at the best of times, Covid and Brexit together too much.
 
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Pretty Plnk Fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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The government had a clear strategy, get on with a hard Brexit right in the middle of a global pandemic, they were offered an option to pause by the EU but the political opportunity of burying Brexit under the Covid chaos was too great to resist. Remember they only have one priority and that's stay in power at any cost

As for people queuing for fuel, well if the PM says don't panic, well what should we expect?

whats wrong with a bus ? if it was good enuogh for Reg varney it is good enough for me

Regards

DF
 


Jan 30, 2008
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One of the drivers union guys on the BBC said there was 40,000 tests cancelled last year - plus more renewal exams.

You then have people who needed to find work elsewhere during lockdown that don’t want to go back

Plus, people queuing up for petrol are idiots.

You forgot to mention the union strike action at the DVLA in Swansea which got the ball rolling :dunce:

Regards
DF
 


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