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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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WATFORD zero

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Oh ok [emoji6], I reckon you have at least two other accounts [emoji6]


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Out of interest, who do you think they may be ?

It's just that I personally know other posters and admin on NSC and if the other posters do as well, I could put your mind at rest (and make you look foolish), but primarily put your mind at rest :wink:
 
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A1X

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I hope I turn out to be one of Watford's puppet accounts, that way I can blame them for my terrible life choices
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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I hope I turn out to be one of Watford's puppet accounts, that way I can blame them for my terrible life choices

Reminds me a bit of the film Spartacus, where an entire field of liberated slaves shout loudly (in American accents, it must be said) that "we're all Spartacus!".

We're all Watford! (I know I am, but was never sure about you and the others.)
 


Chicken Run

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I hope I turn out to be one of Watford's puppet accounts, that way I can blame them for my terrible life choices

There’s no way you’re a Muppet account of his, not even he is low enough to use an account to call for GP to be sacked but not have any clue who to replace him with [emoji6]


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vegster

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Reminds me a bit of the film Spartacus, where an entire field of liberated slaves shout loudly (in American accents, it must be said) that "we're all Spartacus!".

We're all Watford! (I know I am, but was never sure about you and the others.)
Yes, or " I'm Brian" oh " And so is my wife!"
 




WATFORD zero

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What a strange coincidence

Irish freight volumes to EU ports doubled in first month of Brexit

Irish freight volumes to and from European Union ports doubled in January, the government said on Monday, as many traders shunned the once-speedier route to the continent through Britain due to Brexit red tape and delays.

For decades, the so-called UK landbridge offered exporters the swiftest route between Ireland and mainland Europe. The UK's exit from the EU at the end of 2020 has led to a three-fold rise in direct routes in the last 12 months, mainly to French ports.

Volumes were down 50% on routes between Ireland and Britain last month, the government said. That includes the large amount of direct goods trade between the neighbouring countries.


https://www.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-ireland/irish-freight-volumes-to-eu-ports-doubled-in-first-month-of-brexit-idUSL1N2K60KZ

Trade slumps by 50% on Ireland to Great Britain routes in first month of post-Brexit rules

Trade between the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain routes has fallen by 50 per cent on this time last year, according to new figures by the Irish government highlighting the impact of the post-Brexit rules.The government said some businesses were experiencing “severe difficulty” adapting to the new controls since the UK left the EU’s single market and customs union at the end of the transition period.

The data showed that trade volumes on Republic of Ireland and Great Britain routes were half of those reported in January 2020, with 17,500 freight vehicles arriving in Ireland on 390 ferries.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-freight-britain-ireland-b1795681.html

Never mind HS2, with even more regulations due to be introduced 1st April and 1st June, it looks like the Britain bypass is well underway :down:
 


A1X

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vegster

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What a fiasco ! Looks like too many have bought in to JR-M's " It may take 50 years before we get the benefits of leaving " then ? Either that or we don't want to re-join because we are all we all love some economic S&M .... we had 12 odd years of austerity and loved it, "Come on Covid led Recession and throw in the loss of our free trading status with 27 countries... bring it on ! "
 




Randy McNob

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What a fiasco ! Looks like too many have bought in to JR-M's " It may take 50 years before we get the benefits of leaving " then ? Either that or we don't want to re-join because we are all we all love some economic S&M .... we had 12 odd years of austerity and loved it, "Come on Covid led Recession and throw in the loss of our free trading status with 27 countries... bring it on ! "

Old Jacob has already enjoyed the benefits of brexit, about 7m hedging on brexit disaster, then telling the peasants they'll have to wait till they're probably dead before they get any crumbs off the table
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Whilst I'd be happy to for Britain to come in from the cold a heart beat, the prospect to a re-join to the EU seems a while away. The public have been worn down by years of yombie government followed almost seamlessly by the Covid crisis. Many for now just don't have the appetite

The best we can hope for is a more open and socially progressive government at some point bringing closer ties with Europe via a custom union and some sort of Single market type relationship.

Everyday it becoming clearer many of the opportunities in the wider world presented as new opportunities are ones we had all the way along with EU membership.

A new global Britain is a myth
 


sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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What a strange coincidence

Irish freight volumes to EU ports doubled in first month of Brexit

Irish freight volumes to and from European Union ports doubled in January, the government said on Monday, as many traders shunned the once-speedier route to the continent through Britain due to Brexit red tape and delays.

For decades, the so-called UK landbridge offered exporters the swiftest route between Ireland and mainland Europe. The UK's exit from the EU at the end of 2020 has led to a three-fold rise in direct routes in the last 12 months, mainly to French ports.

Volumes were down 50% on routes between Ireland and Britain last month, the government said. That includes the large amount of direct goods trade between the neighbouring countries.


https://www.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-ireland/irish-freight-volumes-to-eu-ports-doubled-in-first-month-of-brexit-idUSL1N2K60KZ

Trade slumps by 50% on Ireland to Great Britain routes in first month of post-Brexit rules

Trade between the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain routes has fallen by 50 per cent on this time last year, according to new figures by the Irish government highlighting the impact of the post-Brexit rules.The government said some businesses were experiencing “severe difficulty” adapting to the new controls since the UK left the EU’s single market and customs union at the end of the transition period.

The data showed that trade volumes on Republic of Ireland and Great Britain routes were half of those reported in January 2020, with 17,500 freight vehicles arriving in Ireland on 390 ferries.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-freight-britain-ireland-b1795681.html

Never mind HS2, with even more regulations due to be introduced 1st April and 1st June, it looks like the Britain bypass is well underway :down:

brilliant , all those trucks off the road.....:thumbsup:
 




Mental Lental

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Never mind HS2, with even more regulations due to be introduced 1st April and 1st June, it looks like the Britain bypass is well underway :down:

I found a nice little diagram of further upcoming Brexit deadlines that will serve to further screw the British economy if not deftly negotiated/extended by Mr Johnson's amazingly competent negotiators......

brexit timeline.png

You'll need to open image in a new tab so that you can magnify exactly how much further the UK is going to be rectally reamed by Brexit.
 


vegster

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I found a nice little diagram of further upcoming Brexit deadlines that will serve to further screw the British economy if not deftly negotiated/extended by Mr Johnson's amazingly competent negotiators......

View attachment 133314

You'll need to open image in a new tab so that you can magnify exactly how much further the UK is going to be rectally reamed by Brexit.
I keep looking for those applications to become one of the 50,000 news Customs officials required for when we get to July 1 st.....
 


WATFORD zero

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I found a nice little diagram of further upcoming Brexit deadlines that will serve to further screw the British economy if not deftly negotiated/extended by Mr Johnson's amazingly competent negotiators......

View attachment 133314

You'll need to open image in a new tab so that you can magnify exactly how much further the UK is going to be rectally reamed by Brexit.

Just lucky that we 'Got Brexit Done'. Could you imagine the ongoing problems is we hadn't ???
 






nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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I found a nice little diagram of further upcoming Brexit deadlines that will serve to further screw the British economy if not deftly negotiated/extended by Mr Johnson's amazingly competent negotiators......

View attachment 133314

You'll need to open image in a new tab so that you can magnify exactly how much further the UK is going to be rectally reamed by Brexit.

Imagine if they had been a No Deal Brexit, wonder how long we would you lasted?
 


WATFORD zero

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Looks like the Loyalists in Northern Ireland are already getting restless over animal checks..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55895276

I'm sure Johnson thought it all through

Seen quite a bit on that this morning and it is very concerning.

The effect of all the other details of the 'Good deal' to date have 'only been economic' and although jeopardising effected industries (financial services, fishing, logistics, farming, exporters etc) and the associated businesses and jobs shouldn't be underestimated, at the end of the day it is 'only economic'.

The Irish Sea Border was the negotiated answer to one of the most significant issues with Brexit which was widely known (and not in any way disputed) even before the referendum. We have had 5 years to get a solution and this is the one we have chosen.

The problem is that this is the detail of the Brexit deal that Johnson negotiated and signed. It is done and dusted and we have to move on. We can hardly keep going back and saying 'we didn't get it right and now want to renegotiate'.

It's very worrying as I can't even imagine what a solution would look like ? Anyone else any ideas ?
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Seen quite a bit on that this morning and it is very concerning.

The effect of all the other details of the 'Good deal' to date have 'only been economic' and although jeopardising effected industries (financial services, fishing, logistics, farming, exporters etc) and the associated businesses and jobs shouldn't be underestimated, at the end of the day it is 'only economic'.

The Irish Sea Border was the negotiated answer to one of the most significant issues with Brexit which was widely known (and not in any way disputed) even before the referendum. We have had 5 years to get a solution and this is the one we have chosen.

The problem is that this is the detail of the Brexit deal that Johnson negotiated and signed. It is done and dusted and we have to move on. We can hardly keep going back and saying 'we didn't get it right and now want to renegotiate'.

It's very worrying as I can't even imagine what a solution would look like ? Anyone else any ideas ?

Frankly Johnson just thought he could wing it on the Irish sea border, its going to be a big problem that isn't going to go away.

The European SM was a god send for UK / Ireland relations, our own British Isles Schenhen area.

What did Cummings say 'I don't care if Northern Ireland falls into the f@@king sea' was it?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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WATFORD zero

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Does this mean unchecked food is coming into the EU zone? I can’t tell from the article.

I believe it means yes, it is (only through Belfast and Larne).

*edit*

Just seen below only animal and food checks. It says full documentary checks continue although I thought the other checks weren't getting introduced on the Irish Sea border until April 1st.
 
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