[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

Seems a sensible time for our EU friends to play hardball in the upcoming trade talks ..

Germany’s economy stagnated in the final quarter of last year, holding back eurozone growth and prompting fears that the Continent’s largest economy could slip into recession.

A slowdown in household and government spending and a slump in exports weighed on growth. Economists had been expecting the economy to expand by 0.1 per cent, but official figures indicated that growth was flat in the three months to the end of December.

German GDP grew by 0.6 per cent over the year, less than half the UK’s 1.4 per cent advance. Its performance also affected the wider eurozone. A flash estimate shows that the GDP in the bloc expanded by only 0.1 per cent in the final quarter of 2019, its slowest rate of expansion since 2013. Over the year the economy expanded by 1.2 per cent.

France and Italy also weighed on eurozone growth. In the final quarter of the year, Europe’s second and third largest economies contracted by 0.1 per cent and 0.3 per cent, respectively.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ecession-as-germany-s-growth-stalls-psvtzxbzl

... anyone would think being tied inside a stagnating trade block isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.

 

[The Clamp]

Seems a sensible time for our EU friends to play hardball in the upcoming trade talks ..

Germany’s economy stagnated in the final quarter of last year, holding back eurozone growth and prompting fears that the Continent’s largest economy could slip into recession.

A slowdown in household and government spending and a slump in exports weighed on growth. Economists had been expecting the economy to expand by 0.1 per cent, but official figures indicated that growth was flat in the three months to the end of December.

German GDP grew by 0.6 per cent over the year, less than half the UK’s 1.4 per cent advance. Its performance also affected the wider eurozone. A flash estimate shows that the GDP in the bloc expanded by only 0.1 per cent in the final quarter of 2019, its slowest rate of expansion since 2013. Over the year the economy expanded by 1.2 per cent.

France and Italy also weighed on eurozone growth. In the final quarter of the year, Europe’s second and third largest economies contracted by 0.1 per cent and 0.3 per cent, respectively.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ecession-as-germany-s-growth-stalls-psvtzxbzl

... anyone would think being tied inside a stagnating trade block isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.

They can look forward to an upturn in December when they no longer have to prop up our failing industry and support poorer communities in the North East of England, Cornwall and Norfolk that the Tory government have left to stagnate.
And no more throwing good money after bad and then having to manage the UK’s mis-spending of funds designated for poor areas in the U.K. that ended up being spent on London and the S.E.

 

[Baldseagull]

Seems a sensible time for our EU friends to play hardball in the upcoming trade talks ..

Germany’s economy stagnated in the final quarter of last year, holding back eurozone growth and prompting fears that the Continent’s largest economy could slip into recession.

A slowdown in household and government spending and a slump in exports weighed on growth. Economists had been expecting the economy to expand by 0.1 per cent, but official figures indicated that growth was flat in the three months to the end of December.

German GDP grew by 0.6 per cent over the year, less than half the UK’s 1.4 per cent advance. Its performance also affected the wider eurozone. A flash estimate shows that the GDP in the bloc expanded by only 0.1 per cent in the final quarter of 2019, its slowest rate of expansion since 2013. Over the year the economy expanded by 1.2 per cent.

France and Italy also weighed on eurozone growth. In the final quarter of the year, Europe’s second and third largest economies contracted by 0.1 per cent and 0.3 per cent, respectively.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ecession-as-germany-s-growth-stalls-psvtzxbzl

... anyone would think being tied inside a stagnating trade block isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.

You know Q4 2019 for the UK was 0% don't you?

 

[portslade seagull]

You know Q4 2019 for the UK was 0% don't you?

What was the reflective yearly growth

 

[LamieRobertson]

Leeds one Bristol City nil

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Seems a sensible time for our EU friends to play hardball in the upcoming trade talks ..

Germany’s economy stagnated in the final quarter of last year, holding back eurozone growth and prompting fears that the Continent’s largest economy could slip into recession.

A slowdown in household and government spending and a slump in exports weighed on growth. Economists had been expecting the economy to expand by 0.1 per cent, but official figures indicated that growth was flat in the three months to the end of December.

German GDP grew by 0.6 per cent over the year, less than half the UK’s 1.4 per cent advance. Its performance also affected the wider eurozone. A flash estimate shows that the GDP in the bloc expanded by only 0.1 per cent in the final quarter of 2019, its slowest rate of expansion since 2013. Over the year the economy expanded by 1.2 per cent.

France and Italy also weighed on eurozone growth. In the final quarter of the year, Europe’s second and third largest economies contracted by 0.1 per cent and 0.3 per cent, respectively.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ecession-as-germany-s-growth-stalls-psvtzxbzl

... anyone would think being tied inside a stagnating trade block isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.

Why are you still obsessing about this? What I have always found bizarre about most Leavers is the absolute pathological pant-pissing about everything and anything to do with the EU. You guys can’t stop, you’re obsessed, even when you have “left.”

We will be fine, concentrate you energy and attention on that US trade deal.

 

[The Clamp]

Why are you still obsessing about this? What I have always found bizarre about most Leavers is the absolute pathological pant-pissing about everything and anything to do with the EU. You guys can’t stop, you’re obsessed, even when you have “left.”

We will be fine, concentrate you energy and attention on that US trade deal.

An attempt to distract from our own problems. Which are manifold.

At least in the EU trading bloc, members can fall on the support of other nations when times get hard.
We have....nobody. Which means only one thing; the taxpayer pick up the tab. Again.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Seems a sensible time for our EU friends to play hardball in the upcoming trade talks ..

Germany’s economy stagnated in the final quarter of last year, holding back eurozone growth and prompting fears that the Continent’s largest economy could slip into recession.

A slowdown in household and government spending and a slump in exports weighed on growth. Economists had been expecting the economy to expand by 0.1 per cent, but official figures indicated that growth was flat in the three months to the end of December.

German GDP grew by 0.6 per cent over the year, less than half the UK’s 1.4 per cent advance. Its performance also affected the wider eurozone. A flash estimate shows that the GDP in the bloc expanded by only 0.1 per cent in the final quarter of 2019, its slowest rate of expansion since 2013. Over the year the economy expanded by 1.2 per cent.

France and Italy also weighed on eurozone growth. In the final quarter of the year, Europe’s second and third largest economies contracted by 0.1 per cent and 0.3 per cent, respectively.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ecession-as-germany-s-growth-stalls-psvtzxbzl

... anyone would think being tied inside a stagnating trade block isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.

So UK GDP has grown by 1.4% over the past year while the EU GDP has grown by 1.2%
and UK GDP growth over the last quarter is 0% while the EU GDP growth is 0.1%

That is certainly devastating news

I suppose if you really want to try to read anything into those figures it does mean that the UK is 3 months nearer to any recession than the EU

 

[daveinplzen]

Why are you still obsessing about this? What I have always found bizarre about most Leavers is the absolute pathological pant-pissing about everything and anything to do with the EU. You guys can’t stop, you’re obsessed, even when you have “left.”

We will be fine, concentrate you energy and attention on that US trade deal.

US trade deal

 

[portslade seagull]

So UK GDP has grown by 1.4% over the past year while the EU GDP has grown by 1.2%
and UK GDP growth over the last quarter is 0% while the EU GDP growth is 0.1%

That is certainly devastating news

I suppose if you really want to try to read anything into those figures it does mean that the UK is 3 months nearer to any recession than the EU

So in your own words the UK growth is bigger than th EU, thanks for that

 

[daveinplzen]

So in your own words the UK growth is bigger than th EU, thanks for that

 

[portslade seagull]

Surely Dave 27 countries should perform better than little old UK over 12 months. What's wrong with them

 

[Baldseagull]

What was the reflective yearly growth

Slightly better than the Eurozone, but JCFG was highlighting in bold Q4 rates.

 

[daveinplzen]

We are lurching towards 'no deal' and trading under WTO rules. Things will change rapidly.

 

[spence]

We are lurching towards 'no deal' and trading under WTO rules. Things will change rapidly.

Dunno about Brexit but off to Prague again in two weeks time. Up in Zizkov. Stocking up on fags before we leave the EU. I don't smoke my missus does. Going again in November

 

[ManOfSussex]

Why are you still obsessing about this? What I have always found bizarre about most Leavers is the absolute pathological pant-pissing about everything and anything to do with the EU. You guys can’t stop, you’re obsessed, even when you have “left.”

We will be fine, concentrate you energy and attention on that US trade deal.

For some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, The EU and Germany are so intrinsically linked to the point that they are actually the same thing. Therefore to some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, any mention of the words 'Germany' and/or 'The EU' means World War II and occupation and that Britannia never became slaves and is immediately at the forefront of any thought about it/them. (The good old days, when we had a navy and Britain and its Empire taught Johnny Foreigner a lesson for the good to which it should still show us gratitude.) Therefore anything, be it German GDP figures or Angela Merkel's haircut, are jumped on with a mixture of glee and rage to justify this whole, not only futile exercise, but glorious triumph that they've won for England. There isn't an empire for some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, to go off and rule anymore, so Brexit is the next best thing for them. Just as well too now - they aren't any willing, educated Scots around to run it for them.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

For some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, The EU and Germany are so intrinsically linked to the point that they are actually the same thing. Therefore to some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, any mention of the words 'Germany' and/or 'The EU' means World War II and occupation and that Britannia never became slaves and is immediately at the forefront of any thought about it/them. (The good old days, when we had a navy and Britain and its Empire taught Johnny Foreigner a lesson for the good to which it should still show us gratitude.) Therefore anything, be it German GDP figures or Angela Merkel's haircut, are jumped on with a mixture of glee and rage to justify this whole, not only futile exercise, but glorious triumph that they've won for England. There isn't an empire for some leavers afflicted by nostalgic delusions of grandeur, such as the Footy Genius, to go off and rule anymore, so Brexit is the next best thing for them. Just as well too now - they wont be any Scots around to run it for them.

Yet, ironically, these patriots have sold Gibraltar down the river.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Yet, ironically, these patriots have sold Gibraltar down the river.

and Northern Ireland and it's Unionist community shafted, Scotland and the future of the nuclear deterrent, which I assume they'll still want, plus the economic well-being of our remaining overseas territories such as the multi million pound fishing industry in the Falkland Islands or the right of Anguillian's to live, work and receive healthcare in neighbouring Saint Martin.

We can get our own free trade deal with New Zealand next year and really stuff Welsh farmers too.

 

[WATFORD zero]

So in your own words the UK growth is bigger than th EU, thanks for that

You couldn't be more wrong. The EU's GDP is far far bigger than the UK, so their 1.2% growth on their GDP is far 'bigger' than the UKs 1.4% on their far smaller GDP

Shirley teaching quantum physics to chimps has to be easier than this

 

[daveinplzen]

Dunno about Brexit but off to Prague again in two weeks time. Up in Zizkov. Stocking up on fags before we leave the EU. I don't smoke my missus does. Going again in November

Give me a shout