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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,099


Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
Cameron's stupid renegotiation ploy failed miserably , he would have been better off doing nothing than insulting peoples intelligence

I think this referendum has shown that you cant effectively manage a country through popular referendums, too many ill informed people. And yes cameron and corbyn have been found out during this process
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast


Blazing Apostle

Active member
Jul 30, 2011
319
Seriously ask the leavers what they are expecting to actually happen now? - loads of new money spent on NHS? no that will be spent of bailing out Wales who will now lose their net financial benefit of being in EU and will need rest of UK to cover shortfall, removal of all immigrants from our shores and no more to arrive - was never going to happen, a brand new UK farming and fishery policy..ah no as Europe still going to be our main market so we will still have to adhere to their policies in order to sell to them....safer UK....nearly all recent terrorist attacks in UK by UK nationals.....etc etc etc
 


The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
You little Englanders will have to answer for the mess this country is going to be in for the foreseeable future - that you are STILL harking back to WW2 70 years later shows you are stuck in the past where a majority of us were looking to the future. The youth of today will not forgive what you fools have done

Apparently most remainers think they'll (the outers) be dead and WONT have to pay or answer for it anytime soon.

Which way would you like it to be?
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,825
By the seaside in West Somerset
One (mad and bad) person took it to the extreme of murder. A terrible thing - really, I mean sickening, an inexcusable event. But ALL the leaders of both campaigns pledged not to try to make any capital out of the deranged turd's wicked act. Perhaps you missed that bit.


I didn't miss it.



Nigel Farage did though!
 




shaolinpunk

[Insert witty title here]
Nov 28, 2005
7,187
Brighton
I maintained from the start that the referendum was a bad idea because a vast number of people people don't know the facts and so are voting based on emotion rather than a calculated decision based on what is best for the country.

Don't get me wrong, maybe if everyone knew the facts the result would be the same. I don't know. But at least then it wouldn't be a campaign based on fear and misinformation.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast




Biscuit Barrel

Well-known member
Jan 28, 2014
2,757
Southwick
You little Englanders will have to answer for the mess this country is going to be in for the foreseeable future - that you are STILL harking back to WW2 70 years later shows you are stuck in the past where a majority of us were looking to the future. The youth of today will not forgive what you fools have done

Serious question - What mess will this country be in for the foreseeable future? What will the result of this referendum look like in say 10 years. I am genuinely interested to know what a remain voter thinks will be the "consequences" of this result.

Just for balance, I voted to leave.
 


Technohead

Active member
Aug 10, 2013
193
Burgess Hill
Don't forget that more than 63% of the electorate didn't vote to remain.


What are you doing here?! Adding the non-voters to your own side? It makes no sense.

That's exactly what the government have argued for with regards industrial action ballots, and which the British public generally support *shrug*
 


abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,389
Just remember that there are still many of the population around who were conned in to voting this country into the EU in the first place. It was a vote to enter a common market with no mention of sovereignty or law making.being handed over to this beaurocratic dictatorship.
Just remember there are many still alive who lost relatives in the war. Many of those killed were just teenagers . my great aunt lost both her young sons.,Tthese men and boys. British, Irish, Polish, Indian, Canadians and French resistance thought they were fighting to save sovereignty and democracy and it was appaling that what they died for was for nothing as power was just handed over anyway.
So maybe you should be disgusted and ashamed - with yourselves.

My late Father who served in the RAF during WW2 believed that the EU made his war and the sacrifice of so many of his friends 'worthwhile'. The EU represented us coming closer together and meant peace - and so it proved.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
Anyone know what it entails and would the leave voters be happy with this should the EU be open to it?

you could have a customs union covering most trade ( a few exceptions to placate vested interests and get past the awkward memebers), along with visa free travel. sounds familar? it should do with large dose of irony. we'd probably be expected to pay in something too, with the rebate gone (would never survive any negotiation), maybe half our current gross figure?

bear in mind with the UK, there is a large budget black hole in the EU, they have to find the shortfall from a number of countries which are also having grumblings about the EU.
 




Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
Remain lost its now time to move on and work on our future together.

Why? Its a divided country. If the deal changes then we will get another vote. Nothing yet has changed. Brexit leaders have no bottle, not even asking to invoke exit, now wanting to bide time. Another election, pro eu party, we stay in. Simple
 






D

Deleted member 22389

Guest
I don't see why a solution to please both could not be sorted out. It is not as if Farage wants to end immigration, just restrict it. You could, I suppose, have restrictions on those people that want to settle in the UK - they must have a job or enough income to support themselves for example, much like the restrictions in place in non-EU countries. Brits would have similar restrictions imposed on them if they want to go and retire in Spain, for example (they may already do?). A solution is not insurmountable, but it depends of course on how flexible the EU will be - my view is the EU will have to dramatically change or it will slowly implode.

The EU most certainly has to change, they need to understand It should not just be about the people in suits, it should also be about the people. I voted Leave, but honestly I can't see us divorcing the EU completely. There will be some new agreement reached, whether it includes something on free movement is another question.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
25,917
I can never get a doctors appointment and when I do it's more than likely a Pakistaani one.

Thank God for Pakistani doctors then.
 


Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
As someone who voted remain I'm pissed off about the result but accept it. Why? We live in a democracy where voting for MPs or in a referendum is "first past the post". We even had a vote to change this a fee years ago and democratically decided not to. OK, so 30% didn't vote. You can't say that they should be added to one side or the other, they just didn't care enough about the outcome to get off their arses and go to the polling station.

The result is the result. Accept it and celebrate the fact that we live in a country where a decision made by the people that the establishment don't like is acted upon, not ignored, illegally changed or met with tanks on the streets.
 




Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,480
"We'll probably never get another chance to vote on this." i.e no actual reason to vote either way.

After the event, a well-to-do woman overheard "Well, at least we won't have to use the Euro when we go on holiday now."

Idiocracy, life imitating art.
 




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