[Politics] Brexit

[The Clamp]

i did, didnt say anything about national parks or green belt, which we established for ourselves. besides this, generally we need to build more in this country to solve the problems in housing. EU doesnt prevent us from amending our own law on countryside protections. while throwing insults of people being thick, you raise issues that infer the EU controls some aspect of life in the UK, supporting arguments of leavers.

Where to start. I think I’ll save my energy.

Keep up the good work.

I’m going for a walk on the Downs . While we still can.

TBFNTC

 

[beorhthelm]

Where to start. I think I’ll save my energy.

Keep up the good work.

I’m going for a walk on the Downs . While we still can.

TBFNTC

probably for the best, you may be right.

 

[wellquickwoody]

And maybe his skin colour so you can really get a handle on whether you value his opinion or not?

Speak for yourself.

 

[birthofanorange]

One could also say that those who have deliberately undertaken an agenda of doom and gloom mongering, spreading messages of forthcoming armageddon and have successfully scared shitless a whole swathe of the British public, who have greatly reduced spending levels and forced the economy into its current depressive state ( and if you don't believe it, go out and ask shopkeepers and business owners ) could also be held accountable for actions against the well being of this country.

Yes, yes you could, but it would be pretty inaccurate. Feel free to say it, though.

 

[zefarelly]

One could also say that those who have deliberately undertaken an agenda of doom and gloom mongering, spreading messages of forthcoming armageddon and have successfully scared shitless a whole swathe of the British public, who have greatly reduced spending levels and forced the economy into its current depressive state ( and if you don't believe it, go out and ask shopkeepers and business owners ) could also be held accountable for actions against the well being of this country.

I'm a small business owner, and I'm bust. For the first time in 11 years I have no work, at all.

I've been looking for a job most of the year, no joy, not even an interview.

Political colour is irrelevant, it's not on my cv. I can't even sell my race car to keep me from accumulating debt at the moment.

Everyone is extremely hesitant to invest and many people are starting to suffer.

The shit hasn't even hit the fan yet.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Remainer thugs were harassing JRM and his small son. Andrea Leadsom needed a police escort to guarantee her safety from "people's vote" supporters screaming at and threatening her. One million marching against democracy and freedom, but in support of Verhofstadt's EU Empire.
Don't try and pretend any of that one million have an ounce of patriotism. To be fair to Verhofstadt he isn't even hiding his ambitions any more, so to still support membership of his imperial power makes you an EU imperialist.

Actual footage by journalists and television is freely available on the internet says your description is way out.
Nobody harassed JRM except photographers, and Leadsom only heard Shame on you, Shame on you chanting.

Patriotism? Like hundreds of Veterans for Europe, each and everyone of them has served in the armed forces.

Truth is such a loose subject isn't it?

 

[nicko31]

Him and his cronies are the first senior politicians that have led me to believe they are only interested in their own agenda. I have agreed with the policy of very few, if any of the following but I always got the feeling that Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron and even May were trying to implement what they thought was best for the country. Of course this is generalised and there are plenty of instances for all of them that were done for ulterior motives but on the whole, I got the feeling that it wasn't just personal gain/power that drove them but a sense of running the country properly, however misguided I feel most, if not all of them were. The jury is out for me on Corbyn in this regard. His early days as leader did seem to reflect him trying to get his beliefs into action and actually seemed to answer questions honestly. Now he seems to be heading into the realm of just trying to get into power rather than actually acting according to his beliefs.

Again, for clarity and to avoid diatribes from the usual suspects, I am against the extreme policies on both sides at present - this is purely based on my gut feel for the motives behind the way senior figures on both sides have been motivated during my adulthood. Don't bother with the IRA sympathiser/Eton posh boy route because that is not the point I am making. But in Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Cummings et al, I only get the sense that everything they do is for their own benefit/advancement. However much she back tracks on it, the comment from Rachel Johnson about Boris acting on behalf of billionaires looking to short the pound actually holds some credence. No idea if it is true or not but the fact I give the matter some thought and could see a fair chance of it being true is very damning for me. However damaging policies from either side have been in the past, you could see that a lot of them were based on the political beliefs of those involved. I don't see that with the above mentioned - Johnson took an age to actually announce which side he was on before the referendum. I am fairly sure he tried to pick the plucky losing side to give him leverage in future challenges. When he got this wrong, he slunk off so he couldn't be blamed for the fallout. And then come charging the rescue with nothing but bluster and obfuscation. He has failed massively but garnered support from an electorate who again see him as a plucky underdog standing up for their democratic decision. I would be stupefied if that was actually the case. I think the first and only rule of Boris Club is "Only worry about Boris"

You need to get a job in journalism. What a great post, nothing more to add...

 

[WATFORD zero]

One could also say that those who have deliberately undertaken an agenda of doom and gloom mongering, spreading messages of forthcoming armageddon and have successfully scared shitless a whole swathe of the British public, who have greatly reduced spending levels and forced the economy into its current depressive state ( and if you don't believe it, go out and ask shopkeepers and business owners ) could also be held accountable for actions against the well being of this country.

Yep, that will definitely be it. It will definitely be businesses and trading organisations warning of the impact of no-deal.

It definitely won't be that for the last 3.5 years no-one knows what the f*** is going to happen, and we haven't even started on the future trade negotiations to replace our last 40 years of trade deals across the world. And this complete clusterf*** will roll on and on for years to come, sucking in all resources in it's wake, the Government, Civil Service, Businesses, Trading organisations, Ports, Customs etc etc etc with no end in sight.

And you voted for this, but it's everyone else's fault

 

[wellquickwoody]

He’s not remain. Never had been.

You are a liar and a twunt to boot.

 

[The Clamp]

You are a liar and a twunt to boot.

You’re probably right ;-)

 

[wellquickwoody]

For some reason I doubt you could even use the correct variation of 'lying' properly in response.

From a confirmed, but reformed, convicted ex-criminal in Hastings.

Fair critique on the spelling

 

[wellquickwoody]

You’re probably right ;-)

Go find some really steep Sussex Downs to test yourself on huh?

 

[lawros left foot]

https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1185634676859441152?s=20


They just can’t help lying, can they.
How did he think he’d get away with it, with Starma sitting right in front of him?
Baffling.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Well that has been happening for a long time.
The soft drinks industry did it to offset the Sugar Tax. The chocolate and confectionery industry have been at it for years. Likewise the cereal and biscuit manufacturers. Its endless. Their mantra is...." In the light of rising costs, we didn't want to pass this on to the consumer, so to retain a competitive price, attractive to consumers, we have reduced the size by a small amount " ( Usually between 10 - 25% )
They think we are all daft but most people notice the declining size of product.

With everything that happened yesterday and today with what the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster has said, what's your mate, who's a big cheese at a supermarket, now saying about the situation at borders, post Brexit? Will the supply of Helderberg Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon, from the Western Cape via Rotterdam, at M&S be okay for example?

 

[Motogull]

I'm a small business owner, and I'm bust. For the first time in 11 years I have no work, at all.

I've been looking for a job most of the year, no joy, not even an interview.

That's awful. I hope your fortunes change soon.

 

[ROKERITE]

And maybe his skin colour so you can really get a handle on whether you value his opinion or not?

What is it about remainers and a person's skin colour? They seem obsessed with it. Perhaps it is a closet racism that makes them support an imperial EU. Well a BREXIT GB doesn't care about a person's skin colour. Brexiteers are of every colour and creed as opposed to the overwhelmingly white ostensibly one million marching against freedom yesterday.

 

[ManOfSussex]

What is it about remainers and a person's skin colour? They seem obsessed with it. Perhaps it is a closet racism that makes them support an imperial EU. Well a BREXIT GB doesn't care about a person's skin colour. Brexiteers are of every colour and creed as opposed to the overwhelmingly white ostensibly one million marching against freedom yesterday.

Exactly.

 

[dingodan]

MEPs are elected. The House of Lords isn't. And our MPs are currently blocking Brexit.

Thank f*ck we can kick them out at.

(MEPs are not allowed to propose legislation)

 

[dingodan]

Sorry if I appeared sarcastic. That wasn’t intentional, though reading back I can see how I could have come across that way. But I can’t accept the argument that EU lawmakers/ leaders are unelected. We’ve only just had elections for MEPs to represent us. How much more Democrat could it be?

Well, perhaps if our MEPs could propose legislation, that would be a good start.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

What is it about remainers and a person's skin colour? They seem obsessed with it. Perhaps it is a closet racism that makes them support an imperial EU. Well a BREXIT GB doesn't care about a person's skin colour. Brexiteers are of every colour and creed as opposed to the overwhelmingly white ostensibly one million marching against freedom yesterday.

What a load of old bollox that is.