[Politics] Brexit

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yeap..

When your currency falls purchasing power falls, wages are still way below 2016 levels in USD and Euro terms, Brits are poorer. FACT

Thomas Cook have been taking the hit and swallowing the losses, they can swallow no more

As usual Brexiteers on here are in denial and refuse to admit Brexit has had any part to play..

Snowflake
Regards
DF

 

[vegster]

Yeap..

When your currency falls purchasing power falls, wages are still way below 2016 levels in USD and Euro terms, Brits are poorer. FACT

Thomas Cook have been taking the hit and swallowing the losses, they can swallow no more

As usual Brexiteers on here are in denial and refuse to admit Brexit has had any part to play..

A Thomas Cook employee was on a phone in today and he said he thinks there are some dodgy dealings going on. He thinks that the British arm of Thomas Cook has been tipped over the edge due to the quite large fleet of UK registered TC planes. His theory is that these planes may have difficulty accessing EU airspace and airports after Oct 31st while British registered, if the company goes bust, the European TC company can buy these planes from the liquidators quite cheaply and then re-register them in an EU country and they then get their full access back. Sounds plausible , oh, and obviously nothing to do with Brexit !

 

[Notters]

A Thomas Cook employee was on a phone in today and he said he thinks there are some dodgy dealings going on. He thinks that the British arm of Thomas Cook has been tipped over the edge due to the quite large fleet of UK registered TC planes. His theory is that these planes may have difficulty accessing EU airspace and airports after Oct 31st while British registered, if the company goes bust, the European TC company can buy these planes from the liquidators quite cheaply and then re-register them in an EU country and they then get their full access back. Sounds plausible , oh, and obviously nothing to do with Brexit !

As far as I can tell the entire company has gone bust, unless I'm missing something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Group

 

[Springal]

A Thomas Cook employee was on a phone in today and he said he thinks there are some dodgy dealings going on. He thinks that the British arm of Thomas Cook has been tipped over the edge due to the quite large fleet of UK registered TC planes. His theory is that these planes may have difficulty accessing EU airspace and airports after Oct 31st while British registered, if the company goes bust, the European TC company can buy these planes from the liquidators quite cheaply and then re-register them in an EU country and they then get their full access back. Sounds plausible , oh, and obviously nothing to do with Brexit !

I'd be surprised if TC own the planes. They'd be leased surely.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Thomas Cook business is 75% in Europe. if you really want to understand the reasons for this company's collapse read https://www.thomascookgroup.com/inv...ssest/TCG+H1+2019+Statement+Final+16May19.pdf, page 9 onward gets into the heart of it.

You are wasting your time they don't. Some people (#teameucrew) are intent on exploiting any bad news story to score points about Brexit ... all rather distasteful but there you go.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Land, Sea, Air If you recognise each others regulatory standards you don't have to carry out regulatory standard checks at the border so diverging from EU standards wouldn't cause the issues you suggested

Had any more ideas on how your preferred Canada ++++++++++++++++ deal will avoid a NI border by recognising each others regulatory standards whilst diverging from those same standards ?

Or should I just file it with you other 'good deal' suggestion of Britain having unilateral control over getting rid of the backstop ?

No wonder you are having to revert to 'no deal' if you, one of the 'good deal's' great supporters can't define a 'good deal'.

Off out, so you have some time to think about it

 

[vegster]

I'd be surprised if TC own the planes. They'd be leased surely.

Good point, I'm only repeating what was said on the radio. It might still be true,TC UK defaults on the lease's suddenly the owner finds he has 30 planes he is not earning any money on anymore.... TC Europe "reluctantly " offers the owners 50% of what TC UK were paying, owners snap hand off for anything is better than nothing.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

You are wasting your time they don't. Some people (#teameucrew) are intent on exploiting any bad news story to score points about Brexit ... all rather distasteful but there you go.

Your response is just a bit cheap itself..

1, did the value of sterling impact adversely on TC? (yes)
2. did Brexit contribute to a low value of Sterling )yes)
3, was Brexit therefore a contributory factor in the demise of TC? (yes)
4. does this mean that those who are anti-Brexit were celebrating the demise of TC? (no but if yes, then they should be ashamed of themselves)

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Had any more ideas on how your preferred Canada ++++++++++++++++ deal will avoid a NI border by recognising each others regulatory standards whilst diverging from those same standards ?

Or should I just file it with you other 'good deal' suggestion of Britain having unilateral control over getting rid of the backstop ?

No wonder you are having to revert to 'no deal' if you, one of the 'good deal's' great supporters can't define a 'good deal'.

Off out, so you have some time to think about it

Serious question .... have you got a learning/comprehension disability?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Your response is just a bit cheap itself..

1, did the value of sterling impact adversely on TC? (yes)
2. did Brexit contribute to a low value of Sterling )yes)
3, was Brexit therefore a contributory factor in the demise of TC? (yes)
4. does this mean that those who are anti-Brexit were celebrating the demise of TC? (no but if yes, then they should be ashamed of themselves)

If the Brexit vote hadn't happened would TC with all it's ongoing problems still be a going concern? If yes then please show your workings, if no or don't know then exploiting bad news stories to score cheap points is entirely fair.

 

[Weststander]

Love it when the media’s hype proves bullshite.

5live and LBC spent the afternoon laying it on thick “Within hours Labour could well be an out and out Remain party. It appears that the voting conference delegates and most trade unions have got their Remain way”.

Wind on, Corbyn and McCluskey won, getting their continued fence-sitting way.

Another reason to switch over from BBC/Sky/LBC hyperbole, and listen to relaxing music.

 

[Weststander]

If the Brexit vote hadn't happened would TC with all it's ongoing problems still be a going concern? If yes then please show your workings, if no or don't know then exploiting bad news stories to score cheap points is entirely fair.

This. Everyone from Simon Calder to business analysts have said that TC was a slow car crash, dying under a mountain of debt and an outdated business model over the last 16 years. “An analogue business in a digital age” is the succinct summary from travel industry and business experts.

Furthermore, the business experts squarely blamed the awful senior management of former CEO Manny Fontenla-Novoa, who from 2003 to 2011 set TC on its course to oblivion.

 

[Blue3]

If the Brexit vote hadn't happened would TC with all it's ongoing problems still be a going concern? If yes then please show your workings, if no or don't know then exploiting bad news stories to score cheap points is entirely fair.

Sadly we wil never know

 

[beorhthelm]

Len McCluskey reckons the Labour hand sitting policy will see Corbyn walk in to Downing Street.

agree or given a lot of votes to Lib Dems?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Ha ha Labour getting cold feet on their stance on Brexit , just the Looney Liberals in cloud cuckoo land, marvellous scenes , get ready for Brexit
Regards
DF

 

[Chicken Run]

Your response is just a bit cheap itself..

1, did the value of sterling impact adversely on TC? (yes)
2. did Brexit contribute to a low value of Sterling )yes)
3, was Brexit therefore a contributory factor in the demise of TC? (yes)
4. does this mean that those who are anti-Brexit were celebrating the demise of TC? (no but if yes, then they should be ashamed of themselves)

There’s only one NSC member imho who is qualified to have any legitimate opinion on this and I’m certain he avoids this thread!

 

[neilbard]

While Labour are sleeping in the blocks, Boris is going to take us out of Europe. Supreme court verdict expected at around 10:30am tomorrow..

 

[theonlymikey]

You are wasting your time they don't. Some people (#teameucrew) are intent on exploiting any bad news story to score points about Brexit ... all rather distasteful but there you go.

Condor the German subsidiary are still going. don't let facts get in the way of remain bashing though.

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[nicko31]

Car crash interview this evening from Boris, offered nothing and as usual didn't give any answers to questions....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqNCRCq_k-o

But does reckon after Brexit we can ban the sale of shark fin soup (sorry Boris, already banned by the EU some years ago). More lies as usual...

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

While Labour are sleeping in the blocks, Boris is going to take us out of Europe. Supreme court verdict expected at around 10:30am tomorrow..

as instructed by the 2016 referendum
regards
DF