[Politics] Brexit

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://youtu.be/G4aLxcQMwzs
put your hands in the air wave them around like you just don't care
regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.getreadyforbrexit.eu/en/
regards
DF

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Len McCluskey reckons the Labour hand sitting policy will see Corbyn walk in to Downing Street.

agree or given a lot of votes to Lib Dems?

Giving loads of votes to all the other parties. Moves ahoy to ditch the old fool, but sadly his teenage fanclub will keep him in post, while the People's Party rots. No compromise with the electorate, comrades, and they will vote vote vote for a new socialist dawn*


*No, no they won't.

Edit, I see dimwit featherbrain is busy, above. I wonder what he's saying? Actually, no, skip that

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

I thought Les Dawson died many years ago.
So why have I just seen him on the news chairing the Labour conference?

 

[W.C.]

Serious question .... have you got a learning/comprehension disability?

You're classy

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

So why would you vote for labour?

Remain will go for libs/green/snp etc

Leave Brexit/tories

Labour are going to get destroyed

 

[Baldseagull]

So why would you vote for labour?

Remain will go for libs/green/snp etc

Leave Brexit/tories

Labour are going to get destroyed

In Crawley, it's Labour or Tory, so I may vote Labour as the lesser evil.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Serious question .... have you got a learning/comprehension disability?

Despite me spending nearly 3.5 years explaining to you why there is no such thing as a 'good deal', you still haven't learnt that the Leave campaign 'good deal' was a pack of total lies, so you continue to embarrass yourself with your 'good deal' solutions.

Good deal solution 1
You are incapable of comprehending what the EU single market is, which means you can't comprehend why Britain can't have a unilateral veto over the backstop in your first 'good deal' suggestion.

Good deal solution 2
You are incapable of comprehending the implications of the GFA and therefor can't comprehend why Canada's deal with the wonderful benefit of regulatory divergence can't be implemented.

Maybe you would like another go at explaining your 'good deal' ?

No I don't think I have a learning/comprehension disability. And I have also learnt what Irony means

 

[Dave the OAP]

Fantastic, he also understands and studies patterns in cash flow at big multi national companies. He is wasted ******* himself silly on the internet, he needs to be running a FTSE 100 company!

Slow time of the year ,company bills to pay sounds like a cash flow problem ,no problem let's blame Brexit nice one Mikey
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

So why would you vote for labour?

Remain will go for libs/green/snp etc

Leave Brexit/tories

Labour are going to get destroyed

Even if you take Brexit out of the equation its LD's all day long for me. I can't remember a time when both parties were just so completely crap.

That said if I was in a seat when it was Labour v Tory I'd still go Labour, its the least cruel form of torture for the country

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

If the Brexit vote hadn't happened would TC with all it's ongoing problems still be a going concern? If yes then please show your workings, if no or don't know then exploiting bad news stories to score cheap points is entirely fair.

A masterclass in how to frame a question for which there is no knowable answer. But I'll have a go: 'probably not'. (I think my use of the term 'contributory factor' might be a reasonable one.)
The 'golden rule' of most ethical/religious codes (as you use the concept of 'fairness') is the 'do unto others' one. So, in terms of 'exploiting' (which I assume is not the same as simply 'mentioning') bad news stories, have you kept a tally of the number times you and your colleagues have mentioned, with almost boundless glee, accounts of how 'badly' the EU countries have performed?
My own position is that:

a) I think leaving the EU (esp. on a no deal) is a net negative for this country (and Europe);
b) when evidence crops up to support this, it's worth mentioning -- especially if it is something that was predicted
c) If and when Brexit occurs then I hope the negatives are limited
d) I'll take no pleasure in the negatives that do occur (notwithstanding a natural tendency to say 'I or we told you so')
e) Indeed, I'll take more pleasure from being proved wrong in these circumstances than being proved right and seeing the UK economy 'tank'

 

[Is it PotG?]

That said if I was in a seat when it was Labour v Tory I'd still go Labour, its the least cruel form of torture for the country

I'd be tempted to agree with you if it were a middle of the road 'Blair' Labour. The current bunch of hard lefties would cause significant damage were they given the keys to Downing St.

Neither Blue/Red worthy of a vote right now.

 

[Stat Brother]

Even if you take Brexit out of the equation its LD's all day long for me. I can't remember a time when both parties were just so completely crap.

That said if I was in a seat when it was Labour v Tory I'd still go Labour, its the least cruel form of torture for the country

Despite the importance of my vote, in the next GE, it will still be completely meaningless.

Once again my constituency will vote for a hatstand wearing a blue rosette.


As it's impossible for Labour or the Lib Dems to win my seat, I'd love for one of them to stand aside and at least make my vote, seat and MP relevant in parliament, whoever gets in.

 

[BLOCK F]

Even if you take Brexit out of the equation its LD's all day long for me. I can't remember a time when both parties were just so completely crap.

That said if I was in a seat when it was Labour v Tory I'd still go Labour, its the least cruel form of torture for the country

You would be taking a hell of a gamble voting in a Government with the incompetent Corbyn as PM and a Marxist as Chancellor.
By all means , hate the Tories as much as you like, but I am damn' sure they wouldn't take a wrecking ball to the economy like Labour would.
My hope is that Corbyn gets heavily defeated at any GE and goes back to his allottment, McDonnell retires to his boat on the Norfolk Broads, Len McCluskey goes back to star in yet another sequel for Jurassic Park, Momentum runs out of momentum and moderate Labour MP's grow some, take back control of the party and once again become a party fit to represent the electorate as a sensible centre left Government.

 

[Bold Seagull]

So why would you vote for labour?

Remain will go for libs/green/snp etc

Leave Brexit/tories

Labour are going to get destroyed

I'd vote Labour because they are the only party trying to listen and taking into account 33m votes, not just 17m or 16m. It doesn't sound decisive or unequivocal because it isn't, but it is a position that after 3 years of fruitless negotiation and ridiculous partisanship, actually gives everyone an informed decision to make on the finality of Brexit.

Lib Dems ignoring 17m voters is just an arrogant joke beyond belief, how is that exactly going to heal the country simply ignoring 17m? I'm a remainer and I wouldn't vote for any party that chooses to go against either side of the vote as it happens.

Many Labour Leave voters would rather take their chances with a 2nd referendum than vote Tory. Polls are meaningless at the moment. Everyone is angry, frustrated, and will say anything to a poll. The X in the box is a different matter. What you have to consider is why the 13m that voted Labour in 2017 wouldn't do the same in 2019, against the 13.7m that voted Tory that clearly have a different party on their hands.

Labour is the only party that gives its Leave and Remain voters a chance for a further say. Some Leave voters may see that as a better chance for securing Brexit than a continued stalemate in Parliament.

Comments like below probably aren't polling Labour, but in the ballot box it might be a different story.

In Crawley, it's Labour or Tory, so I may vote Labour as the lesser evil.

Even if you take Brexit out of the equation its LD's all day long for me. I can't remember a time when both parties were just so completely crap.

That said if I was in a seat when it was Labour v Tory I'd still go Labour, its the least cruel form of torture for the country

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You would be taking a hell of a gamble voting in a Government with the incompetent Corbyn as PM and a Marxist as Chancellor.
By all means , hate the Tories as much as you like, but I am damn' sure they wouldn't take a wrecking ball to the economy like Labour would.
My hope is that Corbyn gets heavily defeated at any GE and goes back to his allottment, McDonnell retires to his boat on the Norfolk Broads, Len McCluskey goes back to star in yet another sequel for Jurassic Park, Momentum runs out of momentum and moderate Labour MP's grow some, take back control of the party and once again become a party fit to represent the electorate as a sensible centre left Government.

I'm not a Labour supporter but have you seen the national debt since the Tories took power in 2010. It has doubled.

 

[A1X]

Len McCluskey reckons the Labour hand sitting policy will see Corbyn walk in to Downing Street.

agree or given a lot of votes to Lib Dems?

My gut feel is they're doing similar to what Cameron did when he put the referendum in the 2015 manifesto. They expect they'll need to rely on the Lib Dems to get in, and so are putting it in knowing that it will be the price the Lib Dems demand be paid and they can then wring their hands and say "well we tried to do it, but those pesky Liberals...". As with Cameron I think it is a strategy which is highly flawed.

 

[WATFORD zero]

You would be taking a hell of a gamble voting in a Government with the incompetent Corbyn as PM and a Marxist as Chancellor.
By all means , hate the Tories as much as you like, but I am damn' sure they wouldn't take a wrecking ball to the economy like Labour would.
My hope is that Corbyn gets heavily defeated at any GE and goes back to his allottment, McDonnell retires to his boat on the Norfolk Broads, Len McCluskey goes back to star in yet another sequel for Jurassic Park, Momentum runs out of momentum and moderate Labour MP's grow some, take back control of the party and once again become a party fit to represent the electorate as a sensible centre left Government.

You're absolutely right, we should stick with Boris 'honest' Johnson. He definitely won't lie to his wife, his mistresses, his schoolfriends, his fellow MPs and cabinet members, the electorate and the queen

 

[nicko31]

Lib Dems ignoring 17m voters is just an arrogant joke beyond belief, how is that exactly going to heal the country simply ignoring 17m? I'm a remainer and I wouldn't vote for any party that chooses to go against either side of the vote as it happens

If LD won an election with a overall majority and revoked they have a mandate to so do, if we do have an election it will be 4 years since the crooked vote of 2016 the outcome will be a mandate

On the flip side if Boris won and got a majority campaigning with no deal he have a mandate too.

 

[ManOfSussex]

In Crawley, it's Labour or Tory, so I may vote Labour as the lesser evil.

Same thing in Hastings. In fairness the Labour candidate, who's currently leader of the borough council, would make a brilliant constituency MP too and I shudder to think what freakoid the Tories will put up to replace Ms Rudd when she returns to Sloane Square where she belongs, so it'll have to be Labour for me whenever it comes around.