[Politics] Brexit

[WATFORD zero]

Now I appreciate that you were 'somewhat tied up' by theonlymikey last night

But you seemed to completely forget (or ignore) my question about how you would get the EU to accept a situation where they would be left trying to run a single market with no borders ?

I am certain most Brexiteers (including me) want a deal, even at this late stage but not any old deal and certainly not one the one that includes tying us inside the customs union indefinitely without an exit date. If no deal happens it is because the EU (Eire) insists a deal that has been rejected by the United Kingdom parliament on numerous occasions and by a record margin, cannot be changed. If avoiding no deal and increased tensions in NI is so important to the Irish I have no idea why they couldn't agree to a temporary backstop (say 2 years) where our future trade relationship would be partially negotiated /much clearer with the possibility to extend the agreement at any time to continue trade negotiations but also have the ability, with a set amount of notice ( say 6 months) to end the process (very unlikely). Pretty sure this would have got through the HoC and still would.

I have no idea whether it would get through the HOC, but you are suggesting a solution where Britain could leave the EU trying to operate a Single Market with no borders ?

If you can't imagine why the EU would have a problem with that, i'd suggest you have spent a significant part of the last 3 years asleep or pissed (although that would explain some of your posts )

I think that your last day of posts on this thread simply confirms that, rather like your leader Johnson, you may be better steering away from detail and sticking to vacuous optimism. (You know, undemocratic loons type thing)

 

[WATFORD zero]

How long are we going to be worse off for 6 months a year, 5 years ,10 years , for ever
Regards
DR

I know I really shouldn't respond, but some things you post are just so stupid

Jacob Rees Mogg says Brexit benefits will take 50 years.



I've posted a video so there's not too many long words to read

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How long are we going to be worse off for 6 months a year, 5 years ,10 years , for ever

50 years according to Jacob Rees-Mogg. Not him, of course, he's already made £7M out of this almighty mess.
The elite rich are playing you for a mug.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

So, what are the positives of a no-deal Brexit?

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

 

[ManOfSussex]

I admire your stamina, still trying to talk reason to the prancing ninny after all this time. I suspect my solution is preferable.

A third way has revealed itself on this thread overnight to be the best solution - just quietly leave him alone to get totally owned by Middlesbrough fans.

 

[A1X]

2016 - "Easiest deal in history, £350m for the NHS!"
2019 - "We're spending £2.1bn to try and protect some of you form the enormous cluster**** we're about to unleash on you."

 

[Driver8]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/u...en-years-as-brexit-hits-orders-084215162.html

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

Being an Englishman with a strong sense of place, I will never stop trying to overturn, in my own small way, a situation that is damaging to my country, its people and its future generations.

Johnson constantly invokes Winston Churchill. From your post above I assume that your advice to that particular pro-European in 1940 would have been to "accept the situation, get on with his life and stop moaning and groaning". Our nation is better than that.

 

[A1X]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

When people start dying entirely needlessly and pointlessly, do you really think people are just going to accept that with a shrug?

 

[A1X]

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[pastafarian]

Of course there is no need to answer it if you don't have the answer. Too many people got caught up in the rhetoric of the Leave campaign which had no substance and are afraid to say they don't know why they are leaving but we should.

But i do have an answer as to why i voted to leave and have said so as to why we should leave. You can search NSC pre referendum brexit threads and discover this yourself.
I still dont understand why you want to discuss if we should leave or not when the voting booths are closed and a decision from the referendum vote has been returned.

Double standards! If, as you claim, current rules mean that we should ignore a referendum decision then under such rules it would be correct to ignore the next referendum result whatever it is. We would have to default all the way back to 22 June 2016. Seems fair.


PS We disagree for sure but I don't know how the turmoil, division and colossal expense of the past three years can be defined as 'ignoring'.

Ah, more mis-representing from you. You really cant lick your problem can you. The word “ignored” was used not the word ignoring.
If you end up not carrying out the decision given by a referendum, and do the opposite instead, then its fair to say that decision has been “Ignored”.
Will you complain down the line if a future referendum instructs the UK to rejoin the EU, and that referendum decision is ignored and we stay out of the EU instead. Be odd if you moaned about the same standards that remainers have just now invented for themselves and consider by their own determination to be the rules that can be applied.
By the way, in such an eventuality, I would say the referendum should be respected and we should rejoin, where as you will be running around like a headless chicken wondering if you should be a hypocrite and moan that your own invented standards of ignoring a referendum decision are being applied.

Let's get real for a minute here.

I voted leave. I wasn't exactly what you call an on the fence or swing voter. In fact I was passionately pro leave and very vocal as such trying to persuade people it was the right thing to do.

Firstly, I in no way voted to be worse off. Not even for a second did I vote to be worse off in the short term, full stop.

In fact, as a daily mail reader (at the time) being worse off , even in the short term was dismissed as 'Scare mongering ' or 'project fear' by the leave campaign.

In actual fact, I voted for the easiest deal in human history, one that could be "rapidly" (quote Boris johnson) implemented.

3 years down the line there has been no such thing as the easiest deal in human history. I now know this doesn't and never did exist.

In actual fact, I voted to avoid an "ever closer union". This hasn't happened. And in hindsight, I recognise we had Veto powers to avoid this. This no longer remains true.

In actual fact, I voted to avoid an EU army. This hasn't happened. In hindsight, I now question why I even thought an EU army is even an issue. Whats so bad about having 27 allies and the most powerful army on the planet? But the exclamation marks and capital letter mail headlines had me thinking this was a disaster.

I actually voted to avoid 70 million Turks turning up on my doorstep. Despite the fact they are are decades away from meeting EU criteria to join the bloc.

One of the reasons I voted to stop further risk of immigration was the strain on our public services. This however, was not a lie. But the dirty little secret? The leave campaign convinced me it was because there was too many people coming from the EU. It wasn't that at all . It was and still is a result of poorly funded public services caused by Tory austerity. I was young, I didn't know better.

I actually voted to regain sovereignty. I was 24 at the time. Got to be honest, didn't really even know what sovereignty was, all I know is the daily mail made me think we had to have it, at whatever cost.

Again, hindsight taught me we have a veto for major changes. Hindsight taught me EU laws are a tiny percentage of our laws. And the ones they DID enforce, actually make a lot of sense. But the daily mail told me "How very dare they".

We are now three years down the line. My worst fears havent come true, nor was there any real risk of them happening.

But one fear I didn't expect, was to be poorer and now this looks like a certainty. see most think tank studies. The fact that 40 billion will be wiped off our GDP to save a supposed (absolute lie) £350m per week?

All this caused by what was the actual project fear, the leave campaign.

Three years have changed me. Older, wiser and reading papers that don't have divisive rhetoric.

If I'm so passionately remain, after being so passionately leave, I do wonder just how many swing voters who voted out now live every day with regret, like me.

Democracy is about flexibility and changing opinions based on current affairs. Stop stealing my democracy and let me fix the sh1t I helped create.






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Crikey .The remainiac bullshitters have done a good job on you.
You are like a one man checkbox exercise from their grooming handbook.

They have convinced you that Liam Fox saying the trade deal between the UK and the EU will be the easiest deal in history ( a trade deal that cannot be negotiated and concluded until after we have left and are a third country) was actually Fox saying instead that the withdrawal agreement deal will be the easiest deal in history,……. maybe the trade deal will be the easiest is trade deal in history, who can say, we havnt got to that point yet.
They have convinced you that ever closer union is a lie because it still hasn’t happened since we voted or been finalized, even though it is just a symbolic aspiration with no legal effect that cant be finalized anyway because it doesn’t actually do anything anyway with how the EU operates.
They have convinced you that actually an EU army, being the most powerful army on the planet and a joy amongst 27 allies if it happened, isnt such a bad thing after all, whilst at the same time angrily telling everyone else there wont be a EU army and stop worrying people(because most remainers think it’s a dreadful idea too), even though if its formed it will be the most powerful army on the planet and will be brilliant……that’s noahs ark tomfoolery that one.
They have convinced you that leavers were lying when telling you the whole population of Turkey were going to turn up on the UK doorstep, even though no one said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep. The only people that said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep where remainers, when they lied that you were being told this…..confusing isnt it.
They have convinced you that in general your concerns over the EU should be dismissed because in actuality these concerns are the fault of you guessed it…..Tory Austerity…. This one is called the momentum effect, which is also used by lib dems as they hate the notion not only that its possible for people dislike the EU, but believe its impossible people voted to leave because they disliked the EU(it must be another reason)…..even when many of them say in the same breath the EU is shit, and we should stay in and fundamentally change and reform it so it isnt shitty anymore.
They have convinced you that sovereignty isnt really a thing either, (even though it was one of the major voting issues for leavers)… and even if it was actually a thing you shouldn’t concern yourself with it , its only a tiny fraction of laws that influence the UK. Sure,it might well be that its up to 60% influenced when you include regulations alongside acts and statutory instruments, but it’s a bit complicated to say for sure, so don’t concern yourself with that and lets go with the lowest figure we can imagine so you don’t have to think it’s a relevant issue.

These type of grooming remainiacs that peddle their crap are full on,they are like a relentless plague, they usually infest places like twitter,I think they have a cult support group on twitter somewhere, remainersnow or something, where there are 30 thousand victims that can share their stories, no one is really sure if they are all victims but the victim card works better if you simply pretend they all are, but as you have already eluded you are quite susceptible to being influenced, so I wouldn’t seek them out if I were you

I hope you will be able to be less susceptible in the future should there ever be a referendum to rejoin the EU after we have left……that will be an interesting discussion considering new membership terms will prob mean no rebate and no opt outs…..but that’s a conversation for another day.

Stay safe, and remember, you are always entitled to change your mind on something. At least you have online support. Think of those poor remainers that have changed their mind and are now leavers. They wouldn’t dare say anything on places like twitter, they would be hounded. Not surprised they just keep themselves to themselves and don’t make a public song and dance………bit like the well known shy tory effect.

.... but did none of the Leave voters tell you, it's undemocratic to change your mind, even when you discover how catastrophic the outcome will be to so many!

I doubt anyone did. Have you ever heard anyone saying its undemocratic to change your mind? I have never heard anyone say its undemocratic to change your mind. I change my mind all the time and no one ever says what an undemocratic thing to do……just today I wasn’t going to have a hot chocolate, as im trying to knock them on the head, but I changed my mind and had one……very nice it was too……its all about the cream.

But you seemed to completely forget (or ignore) my question about how you would get the EU to accept a situation where they would be left trying to run a single market with no borders ?
:

Now I appreciate you have shown yourself to be a bit clueless on the WTO
But nail on the head, even though you didn’t mean it.
In the event of no deal The EU cannot accept not having borders in Ireland. From day one they will have to protect the integrity of their single market and erect borders in Ireland thus being the instigators of breaking the GFA. We on the other hand will not erect borders on day one, (no WTO rules demand borders are erected,obviously with your WTO stupidity,you may not have worked this out yet) we will wait for the inevitable complaint via the WTO that will take months anyway to even sort out the beginning of forum talks and might take years to resolve to a conclusion from interested parties.Even then as no WTO rules demand we erect borders, we might still not erect borders and may use one of the other options that are open to forum members instead, if we are found(years down the line) to be in breach of WTO rules
I wonder in that scenario where it’s the EU seen as breaking the GFA, all of a sudden technological solutions that have been previously discussed and dismissed internally by the EU might be a solution the EU may suddenly think might be able to be applied after all so they are not seen as the ones breaking the GFA. Who knows eh. No one has a real crystal ball so its all just speculation.

The elite rich are playing you for a mug.

Excellent conspiracy theory. Not quite as good as the mental one doing the rounds that we are soon to be the 51st state of the USA, but a cracking conspiracy none the less.
I know, why don’t you post a tweet again on here that implies elitist Boris was making a campaign promise in the run up to the 2016 referendum,……when in reality its actually him speaking in 2011,when he wasn’t even an MP and well before we even knew there was going to be a referendum…….that sort of twitter nonsense is always good for a giggle and provides fodder for the gullible CT types.

 

[Lever]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

So you're saying the benefits of a no-deal Brexit are...... that half the UK population will accept an ever-worsening situation without protesting any further?
Well done for making the most deluded and ridiculous statement on this thread so far. Any other gems?

 

[Simster]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

One day you might put a coherent argument on this thread rather than your facile bleating at people who disagree with you. People are "moaning and groaning" with good reason, and they usually post evidence on here to show why.

All you ever do is cheerlead Brexit, and your pathetic idea of challenging the mounting evidence that you've backed the wrong horse amounts to having a go at people for moaning and groaning.

So you're saying the benefits of a no-deal Brexit are...... that half the UK population will accept an ever-worsening situation without protesting any further?
Well done for making the most deluded and ridiculous statement on this thread so far. Any other gems?

You're obviously new to this insufferable unintelligent bell-end.

 

[Lever]

But i do have an answer as to why i voted to leave and have said so as to why we should leave. You can search NSC pre referendum brexit threads and discover this yourself.
I still dont understand why you want to discuss if we should leave or not when the voting booths are closed and a decision from the referendum vote has been returned.



Ah, more mis-representing from you. You really cant lick your problem can you. The word “ignored” was used not the word ignoring.
If you end up not carrying out the decision given by a referendum, and do the opposite instead, then its fair to say that decision has been “Ignored”.
Will you complain down the line if a future referendum instructs the UK to rejoin the EU, and that referendum decision is ignored and we stay out of the EU instead. Be odd if you moaned about the same standards that remainers have just now invented for themselves and consider by their own determination to be the rules that can be applied.
By the way, in such an eventuality, I would say the referendum should be respected and we should rejoin, where as you will be running around like a headless chicken wondering if you should be a hypocrite and moan that your own invented standards of ignoring a referendum decision are being applied.




Crikey .The remainiac bullshitters have done a good job on you.
You are like a one man checkbox exercise from their grooming handbook.

They have convinced you that Liam Fox saying the trade deal between the UK and the EU will be the easiest deal in history ( a trade deal that cannot be negotiated and concluded until after we have left and are a third country) was actually Fox saying instead that the withdrawal agreement deal will be the easiest deal in history,……. maybe the trade deal will be the easiest is trade deal in history, who can say, we havnt got to that point yet.
They have convinced you that ever closer union is a lie because it still hasn’t happened since we voted or been finalized, even though it is just a symbolic aspiration with no legal effect that cant be finalized anyway because it doesn’t actually do anything anyway with how the EU operates.
They have convinced you that actually an EU army, being the most powerful army on the planet and a joy amongst 27 allies if it happened, isnt such a bad thing after all, whilst at the same time angrily telling everyone else there wont be a EU army and stop worrying people(because most remainers think it’s a dreadful idea too), even though if its formed it will be the most powerful army on the planet and will be brilliant……that’s noahs ark tomfoolery that one.
They have convinced you that leavers were lying when telling you the whole population of Turkey were going to turn up on the UK doorstep, even though no one said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep. The only people that said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep where remainers, when they lied that you were being told this…..confusing isnt it.
They have convinced you that in general your concerns over the EU should be dismissed because in actuality these concerns are the fault of you guessed it…..Tory Austerity…. This one is called the momentum effect, which is also used by lib dems as they hate the notion not only that its possible for people dislike the EU, but believe its impossible people voted to leave because they disliked the EU(it must be another reason)…..even when many of them say in the same breath the EU is shit, and we should stay in and fundamentally change and reform it so it isnt shitty anymore.
They have convinced you that sovereignty isnt really a thing either, (even though it was one of the major voting issues for leavers)… and even if it was actually a thing you shouldn’t concern yourself with it , its only a tiny fraction of laws that influence the UK. Sure,it might well be that its up to 60% influenced when you include regulations alongside acts and statutory instruments, but it’s a bit complicated to say for sure, so don’t concern yourself with that and lets go with the lowest figure we can imagine so you don’t have to think it’s a relevant issue.

These type of grooming remainiacs that peddle their crap are full on,they are like a relentless plague, they usually infest places like twitter,I think they have a cult support group on twitter somewhere, remainersnow or something, where there are 30 thousand victims that can share their stories, no one is really sure if they are all victims but the victim card works better if you simply pretend they all are, but as you have already eluded you are quite susceptible to being influenced, so I wouldn’t seek them out if I were you

I hope you will be able to be less susceptible in the future should there ever be a referendum to rejoin the EU after we have left……that will be an interesting discussion considering new membership terms will prob mean no rebate and no opt outs…..but that’s a conversation for another day.

Stay safe, and remember, you are always entitled to change your mind on something. At least you have online support. Think of those poor remainers that have changed their mind and are now leavers. They wouldn’t dare say anything on places like twitter, they would be hounded. Not surprised they just keep themselves to themselves and don’t make a public song and dance………bit like the well known shy tory effect.



I doubt anyone did. Have you ever heard anyone saying its undemocratic to change your mind? I have never heard anyone say its undemocratic to change your mind. I change my mind all the time and no one ever says what an undemocratic thing to do……just today I wasn’t going to have a hot chocolate, as im trying to knock them on the head, but I changed my mind and had one……very nice it was too……its all about the cream.



Now I appreciate you have shown yourself to be a bit clueless on the WTO
But nail on the head, even though you didn’t mean it.
In the event of no deal The EU cannot accept not having borders in Ireland. From day one they will have to protect the integrity of their single market and erect borders in Ireland thus being the instigators of breaking the GFA. We on the other hand will not erect borders on day one, (no WTO rules demand borders are erected,obviously with your WTO stupidity,you may not have worked this out yet) we will wait for the inevitable complaint via the WTO that will take months anyway to even sort out the beginning of forum talks and might take years to resolve to a conclusion from interested parties.Even then as no WTO rules demand we erect borders, we might still not erect borders and may use one of the other options that are open to forum members instead, if we are found(years down the line) to be in breach of WTO rules
I wonder in that scenario where it’s the EU seen as breaking the GFA, all of a sudden technological solutions that have been previously discussed and dismissed internally by the EU might be a solution the EU may suddenly think might be able to be applied after all so they are not seen as the ones breaking the GFA. Who knows eh. No one has a real crystal ball so its all just speculation.



Excellent conspiracy theory. Not quite as good as the mental one doing the rounds that we are soon to be the 51st state of the USA, but a cracking conspiracy none the less.
I know, why don’t you post a tweet again on here that implies elitist Boris was making a campaign promise in the run up to the 2016 referendum,……when in reality its actually him speaking in 2011,when he wasn’t even an MP and well before we even knew there was going to be a referendum…….that sort of twitter nonsense is always good for a giggle and provides fodder for the gullible CT types.

.... which is why I asked the question... but do I detect the stirrings of a sense of humour regarding your trivial hot drink options? That's progress! Your acerbic wit is alive and well! Great! Stick with that whatever bad things happen.

 

[Notters]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

You can rest assured that I will spend my whole life fighting this.

 

[pastafarian]

.... which is why I asked the question... but do I detect the stirrings of a sense of humour? That's progress! Your acerbic wit is alive and well! Great!

why did you ask a question you already knew the answer to. No one has ever said its undemocratic to change your mind, surely unless you are a bit dim you knew this already before you asked someone if they had been told its undemocratic to change your mind

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But i do have an answer as to why i voted to leave and have said so as to why we should leave. You can search NSC pre referendum brexit threads and discover this yourself.
I still dont understand why you want to discuss if we should leave or not when the voting booths are closed and a decision from the referendum vote has been returned.



Ah, more mis-representing from you. You really cant lick your problem can you. The word “ignored” was used not the word ignoring.
If you end up not carrying out the decision given by a referendum, and do the opposite instead, then its fair to say that decision has been “Ignored”.
Will you complain down the line if a future referendum instructs the UK to rejoin the EU, and that referendum decision is ignored and we stay out of the EU instead. Be odd if you moaned about the same standards that remainers have just now invented for themselves and consider by their own determination to be the rules that can be applied.
By the way, in such an eventuality, I would say the referendum should be respected and we should rejoin, where as you will be running around like a headless chicken wondering if you should be a hypocrite and moan that your own invented standards of ignoring a referendum decision are being applied.




Crikey .The remainiac bullshitters have done a good job on you.
You are like a one man checkbox exercise from their grooming handbook.

They have convinced you that Liam Fox saying the trade deal between the UK and the EU will be the easiest deal in history ( a trade deal that cannot be negotiated and concluded until after we have left and are a third country) was actually Fox saying instead that the withdrawal agreement deal will be the easiest deal in history,……. maybe the trade deal will be the easiest is trade deal in history, who can say, we havnt got to that point yet.
They have convinced you that ever closer union is a lie because it still hasn’t happened since we voted or been finalized, even though it is just a symbolic aspiration with no legal effect that cant be finalized anyway because it doesn’t actually do anything anyway with how the EU operates.
They have convinced you that actually an EU army, being the most powerful army on the planet and a joy amongst 27 allies if it happened, isnt such a bad thing after all, whilst at the same time angrily telling everyone else there wont be a EU army and stop worrying people(because most remainers think it’s a dreadful idea too), even though if its formed it will be the most powerful army on the planet and will be brilliant……that’s noahs ark tomfoolery that one.
They have convinced you that leavers were lying when telling you the whole population of Turkey were going to turn up on the UK doorstep, even though no one said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep. The only people that said the whole population of Turkey was going to turn up on the UK doorstep where remainers, when they lied that you were being told this…..confusing isnt it.
They have convinced you that in general your concerns over the EU should be dismissed because in actuality these concerns are the fault of you guessed it…..Tory Austerity…. This one is called the momentum effect, which is also used by lib dems as they hate the notion not only that its possible for people dislike the EU, but believe its impossible people voted to leave because they disliked the EU(it must be another reason)…..even when many of them say in the same breath the EU is shit, and we should stay in and fundamentally change and reform it so it isnt shitty anymore.
They have convinced you that sovereignty isnt really a thing either, (even though it was one of the major voting issues for leavers)… and even if it was actually a thing you shouldn’t concern yourself with it , its only a tiny fraction of laws that influence the UK. Sure,it might well be that its up to 60% influenced when you include regulations alongside acts and statutory instruments, but it’s a bit complicated to say for sure, so don’t concern yourself with that and lets go with the lowest figure we can imagine so you don’t have to think it’s a relevant issue.

These type of grooming remainiacs that peddle their crap are full on,they are like a relentless plague, they usually infest places like twitter,I think they have a cult support group on twitter somewhere, remainersnow or something, where there are 30 thousand victims that can share their stories, no one is really sure if they are all victims but the victim card works better if you simply pretend they all are, but as you have already eluded you are quite susceptible to being influenced, so I wouldn’t seek them out if I were you

I hope you will be able to be less susceptible in the future should there ever be a referendum to rejoin the EU after we have left……that will be an interesting discussion considering new membership terms will prob mean no rebate and no opt outs…..but that’s a conversation for another day.

Stay safe, and remember, you are always entitled to change your mind on something. At least you have online support. Think of those poor remainers that have changed their mind and are now leavers. They wouldn’t dare say anything on places like twitter, they would be hounded. Not surprised they just keep themselves to themselves and don’t make a public song and dance………bit like the well known shy tory effect.



I doubt anyone did. Have you ever heard anyone saying its undemocratic to change your mind? I have never heard anyone say its undemocratic to change your mind. I change my mind all the time and no one ever says what an undemocratic thing to do……just today I wasn’t going to have a hot chocolate, as im trying to knock them on the head, but I changed my mind and had one……very nice it was too……its all about the cream.



Now I appreciate you have shown yourself to be a bit clueless on the WTO
But nail on the head, even though you didn’t mean it.
In the event of no deal The EU cannot accept not having borders in Ireland. From day one they will have to protect the integrity of their single market and erect borders in Ireland thus being the instigators of breaking the GFA. We on the other hand will not erect borders on day one, (no WTO rules demand borders are erected,obviously with your WTO stupidity,you may not have worked this out yet) we will wait for the inevitable complaint via the WTO that will take months anyway to even sort out the beginning of forum talks and might take years to resolve to a conclusion from interested parties.Even then as no WTO rules demand we erect borders, we might still not erect borders and may use one of the other options that are open to forum members instead, if we are found(years down the line) to be in breach of WTO rules
I wonder in that scenario where it’s the EU seen as breaking the GFA, all of a sudden technological solutions that have been previously discussed and dismissed internally by the EU might be a solution the EU may suddenly think might be able to be applied after all so they are not seen as the ones breaking the GFA. Who knows eh. No one has a real crystal ball so its all just speculation.



Excellent conspiracy theory. Not quite as good as the mental one doing the rounds that we are soon to be the 51st state of the USA, but a cracking conspiracy none the less.
I know, why don’t you post a tweet again on here that implies elitist Boris was making a campaign promise in the run up to the 2016 referendum,……when in reality its actually him speaking in 2011,when he wasn’t even an MP and well before we even knew there was going to be a referendum…….that sort of twitter nonsense is always good for a giggle and provides fodder for the gullible CT types.

Could you get any more patronising?

 

[daveinplzen]

Remainers might accept the situation, get on with their life and stop moaning and groaning.

Spectacular non answer. Congratulations.

 

[daveinplzen]

We don't have to bail out the EU, we become independent we become self governing ,we take back control we make all the decisions, we make our own trade deals # Believe in Britain and not in the EU
Regards
DR

We never lost any control. Did they close Parliament? Make our own (now much more expensive deals) with who, and when? No, we wont have to 'bail out' the EU, but I strongly suspect the IMF will be trying to bail the UK out of the mess wankers like you have created.

 

[pastafarian]

Could you get any more patronising?

Its not patronising to tell the truth
Take your own advice yet again

You have not been attacked. Your post was attacked, not you. Don't play the victim.