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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Stato

Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,367
I notice that 'Honey Badger' wasn't an option on my ballot. What was done to exclude it from the final this time?
 




Hamilton

Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
East Preston Gull said:
This, the tory and Labour love in over this will never be forgotten. They have been traitors to the political beliefs.

What I have seen from my 30 odd debates is real hatred of the remain labour stooges from their own labour members. The tory remainers have been getting dogs abuse from the grass roots.

A remain vote is only going to work in UKIPs favour, which is why Farage has reverted to a stupid poster campaign.
He can see his job and party dieing if we vote Leave.

If we remain then the puppet government who has the job of keeping us thinking we have democracy could be a Ukip majority.

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Are you on acid?
 






















Hamilton

Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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crookie said:
Genuinely the most difficult decision I have had to make in a polling booth. And for once, living in Tunbridge Wells my vote will actually count, which it doesn't normally !! I respect people who have found it so easy to decide, for me, it was very tough. Voted leave in the end, but I still wasn't sure, with the pencil in my hand, which box to cross. As I said to the polling clerk, whatever the result, we'll muddle through, she replied, "yes, we're British" !! My fear is that it will be 51/49 or 52/48 and there'll be half the country deeply unhappy. It will be difficult to bring the country together again. the lies and scaremongering on both sides have diminished the political class in my eyes. If leaving the EU will lead to the economic armageddon predicted by the establishment, a referendum should never have been offered. Surely the height of irresponsibility by the PM. I'm sure he wants to go down in history, i wonder if this will be his equivalent of Blair's Iraq war ?
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I think the point you make about the height or irresponsibility is absolutely right. As a nation, we've been pulled into a vote which should have been the responsibility of our elected MPs and not the electorate.

On the vote to leave or remain I would say this. Even if we vote to leave, we'll still have to remain. We have a chronic skills crisis in this country and an ageing population. Just to remain economically competitive we'll need immigration, and access to the nearest pool of skilled workers is via the EU. We'll need them here and we'll need to provide freedom of movement just to access the single market. This is why immigration - in terms of the EU - is a great big red herring.

The idea that we can be more competitive if we leave is entirely untested. It's a big risk. Most economists believe our economy will suffer in the short-term if we leave. Personally, I don't fancy another recession.

Either way, what's done is done, but I don't want to wake up in a Britain that wants to be outside of the EU tomorrow.
 




Boy Blue

Boy Blue

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Mar 14, 2016
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Just voted and used black biro instead of those pencils as they could easily be altered by the remain camp.
 




Jim in the West

Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
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Just noticed (on the Ladbrokes site) that the area expected to have the highest proportion of Leavers is the Isle of Wight. Just an idea - if the result is Remain, we could give the Isle of Wight independence, and if any Brexiteer is truly upset by the outcome, they could move there (quite handy for The Amex, too, if you don't mind the ferry...)
 




dadams2k11

dadams2k11

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Jun 24, 2011
5,023
Brighton
nicko31 said:
GBP / USD1.495

1/10 on an IN at the bookies

Is this stage Express readers will be crying tomorrow morning
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This will mirror the Scottish independence vote I believe. The GBP went up then shortly after the vote it drop. There will be some serious money made for some traders in the next few weeks.
Jim in the West said:
Interesting - Sterling has gained nearly 10c in the past week - ie, around 7%. Those currency traders must know something....
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lawros left foot

lawros left foot

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Jun 11, 2011
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Worthing
looney said:
That post was a parody of leavers being Farage's friends. You wont revel in childish insults and you go on to say lack of intelligence? Are you stupid or being ironic. I'll assume the former as irony seems beyond your pay grade.
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Not really an insult, more a statement of fact.
Judging from previous posts of yours, you obviously consider yourself to be some kind of edgy, comedy genius, al'a David Brent.
I hate to break it to you, you're not.
 








N

Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Hamilton said:
I think the point you make about the height or irresponsibility is absolutely right. As a nation, we've been pulled into a vote which should have been the responsibility of our elected MPs and not the electorate.

On the vote to leave or remain I would say this. Even if we vote to leave, we'll still have to remain. We have a chronic skills crisis in this country and an ageing population. Just to remain economically competitive we'll need immigration, and access to the nearest pool of skilled workers is via the EU. We'll need them here and we'll need to provide freedom of movement just to access the single market. This is why immigration - in terms of the EU - is a great big red herring.

The idea that we can be more competitive if we leave is entirely untested. It's a big risk. Most economists believe our economy will suffer in the short-term if we leave. Personally, I don't fancy another recession.

Either way, what's done is done, but I don't want to wake up in a Britain that wants to be outside of the EU tomorrow.
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The problem with your hypothesis is that wages are not going up. If there were truly a general skills shortage this would not be happening. The reality that the FTSE 100 chairmen know is that their share prices (and hence their bonuses) depend upon unlimited cheap Labour. The young are fodder for them and easily distracted with promises on the environment and slogans about solving problems together. If you are truly worried about skills shortages then you should be in favour of a points system for immigration where people can be brought in to fill actual skill shortages. This is a lot more effeicient than the current free-for-all but wouldn't help much in creating a vast pool of cheap labour. Immigration is very far from being a red herring. It is crucial to the economic case.
 




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