[Politics] Brexit

[sydney]

Ah! The old “immigration is okay if it’s me” argument. I think I’ve got the measure of it.

you're too smart to miss my point so i guess you must be ignoring it ,

 

[The Clamp]

you're too smart to miss my point so i guess you must be ignoring it ,

No no. I just find it rather telling , where you have placed yourself in your hierarchy of immigrants.

 

[clapham_gull]

Corbyn did not want to remain because why have another Socialist organization controlling his one if he gets power IMO.

I think you misunderstand "socialism". Listen to the speeches of Benn if you want to understand why is he is (at best) completely conflicted.

The unions are split too.

My opinion is the left (and the centre ground) have been "democratically" lazy with their opinion of the EU. I'm particularly talking about the electorate.

Both have viewed it as a buffer against right wing excesses of successive UK Governments.

The centre have viewed it as a quasi government protecting them, the left whilst not being particularly happy it's there are very happy with what it actually achieves in terms of workers rights etc.

When faced with the question of ideology v reality, Corbyn has visibly struggled.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

The EU IMO is like a socialist orginization controlled from Brussels "We know whats best for you" ,Europe is not doing well high unemployment what happened in Greece .Butter mountains ,put more money in then get out .They waste money within their own club milling around ,Hotels ,boozing ,high life ,Corbyn did not want to remain because why have another Socialist organization controlling his one if he gets power IMO.

The 'butter mountains' are not a thing anymore.

'they waste money milling around, Hotels,
boozing'. When the UK government has just spent 12 million on an apartment in New York.

 

[clapham_gull]

The 'butter mountains' are not a thing anymore.

'they waste money milling around, Hotels,
boozing'. When the UK government has just spent 12 million on an apartment in New York.

We've also got many many more civil servants in this country (all un-elected) than the entire employees of the EU.. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's ten fold.

Are those angry about Bureaucracy in the EU are gonna take the UK on next ?

Taking back control !!!

 

[The Clamp]

We've also got many many more civil servants in this country (all un-elected) than the entire employees of the EU.. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's ten fold.

Are those angry about Bureaucracy in the EU are gonna take the UK on next ?

Taking back control !!!

Forget all the lies, propaganda and manipulation they fell for, the biggest mistake Leave voters have made is believing our governmemnt will look after them better than the EU.
It’s pitiful.

 

[Triggaaar]

'they waste money milling around, Hotels,
boozing'. When the UK government has just spent 12 million on an apartment in New York.

But that 12 million will still be there should they decide to sell the apartment in the future, and in the meantime it helps get the best people to do business worth billions.

 

[The Clamp]

But that 12 million will still be there should they decide to sell the apartment in the future, and in the meantime it helps get the best people to do business worth billions.

Why spend it in the first place? A 12 million pound apartment? Come off it. It’s a luxury pad for toffs to go on a jolly. Could be put up in Embassy apartments for minimal cost.
That’s the first inroad they make towards a deal? Spending 12m of our money. Doesn’t bode well. The Brexit gravy train’s first stop. And we haven’t even left!!
If the government can convince people they need to spend this they can convince people of anything. Disgusting.

 

[clapham_gull]

But that 12 million will still be there should they decide to sell the apartment in the future, and in the meantime it helps get the best people to do business worth billions.

It's for an existing individual and has 7 bedrooms. The government have confirmed only his family will live there and the staff rooms are being removed.

 

[Triggaaar]

It’s a luxury pad for toffs to go on a jolly. Could be put up in Embassy apartments for minimal cost.

It's for an existing individual and has 7 bedrooms. The government have confirmed only his family will live there and the staff rooms are being removed.

You two need to get your stories straight.

 

[clapham_gull]

You two need to get your stories straight.

No I don't, I'm simply reporting what the Foreign Office has stated.

It's a bit like the expenses scandal where some in power think expenditure like this is complete normality. It was signed off by Jeremy Hunt.

He has a very important job, but is neither a member of the Saudi Royal Family or a millionaire rock star.

Does not appear to a functional government building, it's a home. Quite bizarre.

Reminds of Bob Kiley (remember him?) Livingstone brought him over to be Commissioner for Transport and put him up in 2m (2000 prices) house in Belgravia

Listen I UNDERSTAND. If you need the best Civil Servants you need to house them in MANSIONS.

 

[The Clamp]

You two need to get your stories straight.

Either way 12m for one family to live in is preposterous. As I say, the Brexit gravy train is on its way.

 

[clapham_gull]

Either way 12m for one family to live in is preposterous. As I say, the Brexit gravy train is on its way.

That's the way the UK Government now rolls. Having had to sell off loads of properties to balance the books, it's now splashed out 12 million (on a family "home" / luxury 7 bedroom penthouse for one member of staff) to accommodate a previously unnecessary trade deal.

TAKING BACK CONTROL !

Just the start of the Brexit Gravy train. Ex-Ministers are bored of the Europe, there is a whole wide world out there.

 

[clapham_gull]

One of the staff rooms works out at 6.3 sq metres – only slightly larger than the minimum legal size of a prison cell. One of the apartment’s three walk-in wardrobes is larger than both the staff rooms.

It was previously inhabited by the US Ambassador to the United Nations.

 

[The Clamp]

That's the way the UK Government now rolls. Having had to sell off loads of properties to balance the books, it's now splashed out 12 million (on a family "home" / luxury 7 bedroom penthouse for one member of staff) to accommodate a previously unnecessary trade deal.

TAKING BACK CONTROL !

Just the start of the Brexit Gravy train. Ex-Ministers are bored of the Europe, there is a whole wide world out there.

Yep, can you imagine the money they are going to lavish upon themselves once it really kicks in. It’ll make duck houses and moats seem like a trolley dash in Poundland.

 

[clapham_gull]

Yep, can you imagine the money they are going to lavish upon themselves once it really kicks in. It’ll make duck houses and moats seem like a trolley dash in Poundland.

Or lunch from Aldi.

It ticks all the boxes for the un-elected bureaucrats from the UK who had to slum it with a ban of first class / business travel (*)

(*) Except in the case of long haul flights.

TAKING BACK CONTROL !!

 

[clapham_gull]

Listen it's a bargain. The Foreign Office are also spending £55 MILLION refurbishing the Embassy in Washington.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/for...-out-55m-revamp-of-us-embassy/5095173.article

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/our-man-in-washington-is-getting-the-builders-in

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I don't disagree, and have already said I do not support 'no deal', but people are not ''likely to die'' if it happened.

So much alarmist nonsense, do people actually think we only have enough medicines to last till next month, or that we would be unable to obtain it? Wow.

Matt Hancock, the Health secretary has admitted as much. He was interviewed on television. Please keep up with current affairs.

As for respecting democracy, the poll tax was a democratic decision, as was refusing to give votes to women. Those decisions were wrong, and the public rebelled.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

But that 12 million will still be there should they decide to sell the apartment in the future, and in the meantime it helps get the best people to do business worth billions.

Assuming the prices stay the same. But do you really expect the government to hold out for the best price? It will most likely be for a quick sell at a massive loss

 

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